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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:34:00

so, by the time steve arrived, detectives were already suspicious. they asked him to come to the sheriff s department, where he told them the same thing he had told his daughter. he was riding his mountain bike when he got a flat tire. i don t really mountain bike very often. i m starting to so, you know, i do some on and off. mostly uygur trail running. i don t have a routine. he drew a map of the trail he followed. online goes up, and peters out, and there is the trial. at one point, the child got within a mile of carole s house. the detectives ears perked up, but steve insisted he never went to carole s house. i m happy to give you blood and saliva. i m happy to give you anything you need. so, there s nothing we will find that will tell you there? no, i wasn t there. i wouldn t do that. steve told the detective he was tired, dehydrated. we can fix that. if you need more water, i ll be back to get water. if you need food, giving food,

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:54:00

financial documents. what was jim doing with those documents? and, something else. perhaps, very significant. there was blood on the doorknob of a door, that lead from the main house, into the backyard garage. the blood, becoming evidence item number 805, collected days after carroll s death. and, whose dna was mixed with carole s blood? gyms. just like the thumbprint, the question becomes, when did jim s dna get put on that door handle? robertson, clearly, had his suspicions. and, steve sister, sharon, did to. you felt, all along, that jim should have been the suspect, and he wasn t? he should have been investigated. it was very concerning. they told him that he was at

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:33:00

ones to arrive at the scene after the deputies had arrived. of course, the detectives asked him, where was he that night? and, he was ready with a story. he had been babysitting one of his boys and his ex-wife s house when this incident, actually, occurred. you have to pin him down on that, and make sure he had proof of, it right? that s correct. another detective, turning on his recorder, as he rambled on about his relationship with carole. she and i, are, sort of, committed to one another to be co-coaches. to coach each other through both our divorces. but, he didn t stop there. oh no, he seemed very eager to tell them about carole s ex husband, steve. i ll warn you guys, it s just my intuitive take. the guy comes off to me as a very sneaky, manipulative man.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:53:00

look at another man and carroll s life. jim. the man who lived in the guesthouse, showing up at the crime scene within minutes of the officers, and, who was the first person to point the finger at steve. the fact that law enforcement viewed him in a different way, they viewed steve. that they saw jim as a friendly witness, and they say steve as a suspect, frames the way they investigate. so, anything having to do with jim becomes excusable. explained. it s just not something you have to worry about, because he s not our guy. and yet, look for an example of these crime scene photos in carole s kitchen counter. the magazine, sitting on it. slip inside, between the pages, were financial documents, printed the very day carole was murdered. that became important. his thumb print is on those

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:03:00

and living a life from a perspective of having an open heart and being loving. before she became a close friend, she was at prescott college. she was very much respected and admired. the collapse was always very full, very difficult to get into. why would she like? she was magnetic. and always searching for the truth. and, you are just gravitating to her. the charisma that pulled her students in. yes, she was soft and inviting. i m carole kennedy, i live in prescott arizona. we got our sense of her personality in this interview. in which she was asked about her passion for teaching. it s a gift for feeling that you get to give seeds to this first row, here. and then they turn around and give it to rows behind them. and in fact she shared those passions with a man who was her husband for 25 years.

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