the us is post slavery, post segregation, but definitely not post racism. my guest is ibram x kendi, an influential writer and academic who argues the only way to not be racist is to be actively anti racist a message he says children must hear. is his approach bound to intensify america s internal conflict? ibram x kendi, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me on. it s a pleasure to have you here. your focus right now seems to be on children, and your contention that children, very young children even, should be told about racism, even if it s not a daily reality that they are actually living with. why? because unfortunately, studies are showing that it is a daily reality that they re living with. one study found that kids as early as three years old have what one scholar called an adult like concept of race . they re already attaching skin colour to behaviours like who s smart, who s clean, and even who s honest. and so, if we re not teaching children to not connect
an influential writer and academic who argues the only way to not be racist is to be actively anti racist a message he says children must hear. is his approach bound to intensify america s internal conflict? ibram x kendi, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me on. it s a pleasure to have you here. your focus right now seems to be on children, and your contention that children, very young children even, should be told about racism, even if it s not a daily reality that they are actually living with. why? because unfortunately, studies are showing that it is a daily reality that they re living with. one study found that kids as early as three years old have what one scholar called an adult like concept of race . they re already attaching skin colour to behaviours like who s smart, who s clean, and even who s honest. and so, if we re not teaching children to not connect skin colour to behaviour, to recognise that, you know, someone s skin colour is not a reflection of
their intentions to run. those are the headlines. now on bbc news, it s hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk, i m stephen sackur. the fractures in american society are widening over guns, abortion, education, and more. but the deepest, most traumatic fracture is surely over race and it impacts all of the others. the us is post slavery, post segregation, but definitely not post racism. my guest is ibram x kendi, an influential writer and academic who argues the only way to not be racist is to be actively anti racist a message he says children must hear. is his approach bound to intensify america s internal conflict? ibram x kendi, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me on. it s a pleasure to have you here. your focus right now seems to be on children, and your contention that children, very young children even, should be told about racism, even if it s not a daily reality that they are actually living with. why? because unfortunately, studies are showing that it is a daily
ugh. woke. no, no. don t pay attention. it s all just nonsense. don t get caught up. this too shall pass. wokeness is divisive, exclusionary, and hateful. are you even woke? woke culture is garbage. oh, god. so much yelling. so much fighting. this is where woke goes to die. getting critical race theory out of our schools is a matter of national survival. aren t things bad enough? do we have to fight about this word? woke. woke. woke. you are so woke. you woke the sleeping giant. critical race theory is bigoted. it is a lie. and it is every bit as racist as the klansmen in white sheets. okay. i m going to wade in and try to explain woke. all right. open my eyes. take a deep breath. oh, no. i m in arizona. all right. this is where we re at in america, everybody. we have a new enemy and it is woke. not the word. the idea. actually also the word. maybe mostly the word. putin ain t woke. he is anti-woke. i want florida to be known as the bri
Than this, follow your heart but take your brain with you. I would also advise all of my house colleagues to be sure and take their meds. Senator john kennedy, republican from louisiana, with some good advice, following Kevin Mccarthys historic and humiliating ouster. Meaning even some republicans realize their party is a mess. And utterly incapable of governing. Also tonight on day three of his fraud trial, donald trump high tails it back to florida. And new York Attorney Latitia James says shes had enough of his attacks and lies, declaring that the donald trump show is over. And we begin tonight with a crisis of governance in the house of representatives. At a time when the nation and the world are facing some very serious problems. Today, 75,000 u. S. Health professionals went on strike over Work Conditions and pay. Autoworkers are still strikes and awaiting their fair pay. The Climate Crisis is flooding major cities. Gun violence rages on including just last night in baltimore, as