simone? ken and simone, hold on a second. you need a reset. ken, you don t want to use language like that when you re talking to simone. you can disagree but don t talk like this on this show. i keep getting interrupted. we don t tell people to shut up on this show. you can stand up for yourself and still be civil. how do i keep talking when people keep interrupting me? simone, i apologize for that. we don t talk to people like that on this show. and ken, i know you don t meend mooen to insult somebody like that on this show. of course not but i can t be walked over for over and over and over. let s be really clear here. step one, you had a local blogger protesting the removal of the confederate statue. that guy was also connected, it looks like, to these outside groups. that permit was an excuse to bring these people in. and they came in from all over the country as the arrests show,
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you know, they were arrested mostly outside there was only one virginian i know of that was arrested. all the others were outside from virginia. this was a gathering of hate groups. that s what this was. they can define themselves however they want. they re all outrageous, ridiculous. this guy was essentially a domestic terrorists. you re not disagreeing with the idea that robert e. lee is emblematic of a hatred that is of particular sensitivity and pain to the african community? you don t deny that? of course i don t deny that. that s what started the confusion. that s all. that s what started the confusion. and it need aid point of clarification. where i start to have a problem, chris, is that when you want to go ahead and say someone like steve bannon buys in completely to all of this and that s the advice president trump is getting, that just goes way, way too far. then why would he name the groups then, ken?
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television. and, chris, one thing that if this isn t an apology, mr. cuccinelli people use them to smear others like you hear on this discussion. it makes it harder to have a civil discussion. steve bannon has said he curated the platform. those people need to be condemned. i didn t want to get us back in to the discussion but what i was giving you a chance to do, ken, was apologize to the language you used to simone sanders. do you want to do that? i don t think he does. i ll apologize for shut up and i ll accept her apology for interrupting me. i don t have an apology for you. you will not get one. civil discussion is always the appropriate counter to hate. thank you for being on new day. you ve got to make that point. i know people get upset and ken doesn t like being accused of not understanding the history of
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recognize that a government shutdown is a horrible disaster for them. it s hurting the brand of the republican party, which is at 28%, lowest level in decades, and that that really resounds negative negatively. my hope is republican senators will join with democrats to have an end to both of this hostage taking and you will see, because you hear from republican governors, chris christie, who is running right now two to one lead. this is great for chris christie. yes. chris christie has brand separation from the congressional party in a way ken doesn t. for christie, if you re a new jersey voter, he s even less like those other guys than i thought he was to begin with. but why is he less like them? because he is saying the house republicans are wrong on the government shutdown. that is helping his brand because he s with the american people with saying this is insanity. so where does the party go from here? what s the way out of here that would allow john boehner to save a
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