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yes. is that right? yes. what does that look like if we bench mark against our index. the whole world and including emerging markets but not small camp we did the study for that too and it looks identical. okay, so where does this, i mean, how far are we looking back here in 97? we are looking back to 88. all right. okay. i can t read this slide as well. it is actually rolling ten-year period and so the period extends beyond where the axis shows. so you have. what is the average in the difference? well, what we are seeing here is that the average. please. the average annual return for the ten-year rolling period showed an 8 basis point out the market. what is interesting is that in 73 percent of the ten-year rolling periods, the fossil fuel free portfolio out performed the market and we don t put a lot of stock in the back tests and we put a lot more emphasis on the risk, evaluation, forecasting the return is difficult if not impossible, forecast
don t want to call it fossil fuel companies indexes at all? not that i am aware of. to reiterate for folks, the retirement board, benchmarks performance against the indexes and that is how you do the measure performance. and that is how the managers stay engaged with us to make sure that they are meeting the benchmarks. and you think that five years is not enough time to figure that out. without the analysis of the extent of where these holdings are and what alternatives might be out in the markets, the public markets to replace these i really could not say. i have asked you for to ask about your opinion of retirement board members and i am going to ask you for your opinion now. do you feel that climate change is real? and do you feel that fossil fuel companies have had an impact on the climate change that we seem to be experiencing? i will say me opinion that is my opinion and i will not play a role in the decision however, there is clear evidence that in fac
there is no big mystery, the science is clear and cut and dried. what can you do about it? there is no big mystery, we need to stop building fossil fueled plants. what is the problem, dad? and that is actually where the conversation gets really complicated. because basically, global warming is not a technical problem it is not a science problem it is a political problem and that is why fossil fuel divestment is really perhaps the most important thing that we can do. that is why we have a global warming problem not because we don t understand the science, but because there are vested interests that are fighting to maintain the status quo, i think that this board, if it really cares about climate change and i know that you do, you can t but help to move to divestment. so, i think that you guys are asking really great questions about what is the smart way to make that divestment happen and i hope that you pursue that so it can happen thank you very much. thank you. thank you
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