it s back in 1983, i think ron, when ron came to visit me to talk about putting together a rico case. at that point, we all thought that there was a possibility of putting together a case on the commission of the mafia. but it was on the drawing board at the time. and there were an awful lot of people, including people within law enforcement that thought that that was totally unrealistic, ridiculous, could not be done. rudy giuliani did it. the top bosses in new york s most powerful mafias were given 100-year prison sentences. and the case may giuliani famous. and he used that fame to ultimately run for mayor of new york and, well, you know the rest of the story. but now a version of the same law georgia s rico statute a version of that law could be rudy giuliani s downfall. of all the indictments former president trump faces, one of the things that makes yesterday yesterday s unique is how many
northern counties on the east. it touches alabama. so, some very conservative parts of the state. they may perceive an advantage. in reality, there may not really be a big one there. but even if there isn t an advantage, i think joyce would agree with me that, what this shows is the opportunity for a delay. this indictment hasn t even been baked for 24 hours, and already they have a removal motion going, and other defendants might do that. so i think it just shows you how fraught this is going to be to do with 19 people 19 defendants there is a motion practice that is going to go on for months. the idea that this is six months in the making is just not realistic. yeah, joyce, i should mention that rudy giuliani, who we spent some time talking about at the start of this program, is also suggesting they should be moved to federal court. is it a foregone conclusion that trump and everyone else involved in this is going to try to move it to federal court? to set aside the jur
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be seen whether chris mays will get that kind of cooperation from republicans who are privy to those conversations. yeah, that such an important distinction, actually, the way that georgia republicans handlers versus the arizona republicans. it tells you something about the republican party in states by states across the country. what about nevada? because nevada is mentioned in the jacks mitt federal indictment. and yet the nevada a.g. has not brought any charges here, and is also a democrat. right. the nevada a.g. has actually said publicly he doesn t intend, too because he doesn t believe the statutes in his state would allow him to bring a case. he actually stood up and supported nevada state legislators, wanted to make being a fake elector itself a crime in nevada. but where it came to sort of more nebulous statutes that could apply to lots of different situations, like forgery or solicitation, he, unlike fani willis, i thought that wasn t enough. so, he announced a he wou
arranging phone calls, made visiting official of his affair facilities, down at the state, in cobb county prosecutors take issue with that. but i wonder, when we talk about flipping and sometimes when you have such a large pool of codefendants, the goal of the prosecutor is to leverage all of these people against each other. do you see this giant number of codefendants as a potential pool for flipping just to be i don t know. of course! can we call it flippage? i m not sure. walt nauta i don t know that kanye west s former publicists wants to face 5 to 20 years in prison. i m not saying she is going to get five to do you want to gamble? that she is part of the someone you don t have a relationship with. this is a serious charge. i just think the incentives in this case are very different.