backup information and such, what next? for them, jake, the important thing for the justice department they already have their investigations ongoing. obviously, we now have a lot of clarity that donald trump is at the center of at least one part of what jack smith, special counsel, is looking at, as well as john eastman and jeff from clark. two people who are big parts of this committee s report. those investigations are already pretty far along. so, the justice department is awaiting still the transcripts? right. and thousands of hours of witness testimony, video witness testimony, they will get that. they ve been asking for that for months. what do they hope to learn from the transcripts? i think important for them, they want to see what witnesses said to this committee that certainly, the witnesses that have spoken to the fbi, whether there s any difference in that testimony. they also need to see some of this evidence that the committee says shows some potential obstruct
tranche of information with the secret service. this is not the end of this. we look at this really as the beginning in a sense. you know, as we said in a hearing for today, for the department of justice to take the information that we ve gathered along with what they ve gathered. in the end, holding people accountable making sure something like this doesn t happen again. there s more to be done that we had time and ultimately resources for. do you think the justice department would have been as aggressive as they ve been? and i know there s a lot of people who think they haven t been aggressive enough. i know they did get guilty pleas for oath keepers on seditious conspiracy and other charges. who knows what s to come. do you think they would have done as much as they did for the january 6th committee kind of blazing a trail? and on that subject, why shouldn t the senate form now that democrats have 51 votes and can form committees and have subpoena power. why shouldn t the senate
waiting for the information. here s why prosecutors need that information. number one, you want to if there s anything helpful to build a case. number two, you have to know if your witnesses have said anything different, contradictory, you have an obligation to know that as a prosecutor and potentially turn it over to the defense. the reasons why the committee hasn t turned over, i can only assume are political but sure as not helping the prosecution here. so, just to play defense to the committee for a second, i think there s a perspective from the politicianss on the committe that the justice department is too cautious, too weak, too afraid to prosecute. and that s been one of the issues. i also know there have been people who have been interviewed by both the committee and by the grand jury and the investigators there who were surprised how little the justice department seemed to know compared to the january 6th committee. jake i know you re biased in fave
reporter: the committee referring multiple crimes to the justice department that they say the former president committed while trying to stay in the white house. we believe that the evidence described by my colleagues today and assembled throughout our hearings warrants a criminal referral of former president donald j. trump. reporter: including assisting or aiding an insurrection. conspiracy to defraud the united states. obstruction of an official proceeding. and conspiracy to make false statements. it believes there is sufficient evidence for two others. conspiracy to injure or impede an officer and seditious conspiracy. the panel also referring attorney and trump ally john eastman to doj but saying doj will have to determine who else will face prosecution. though the understanding of the role of many individuals may be incomplete even today, because they refuse to answer our questions, we trust that the department of justice will be able to form a far more complete picture.
while its collagen peptides help support your joint structures. so, start feeling lighter and more energetic by taking metamucil every day. [ ] metamucil s psyllium fiber also comes in easy-to-take capsules. we re back with our politics lead. the justice department now has the january 6th committee s criminal referrals. including four criminal referrals against donald trump, and additional referrals for his attorney john eastman. evan perez joins us now. evan, the justice department has referrals they will have the