at a call their counterpart with. it is at a more call their counterpart with. it is at a more junior level, but there are routine at a more junior level, but there are routine discussions between the two sides are routine discussions between the two sides in are routine discussions between the two sides in trying to figure out, you know. two sides in trying to figure out, you know, when the next meeting will be and you know, when the next meeting will be and what you know, when the next meeting will be and what will be discussed. so at least there s that at kind of the more grass roots level, but at the higher more grass roots level, but at the higher levels, there is not and i think higher levels, there is not and i think to higher levels, there is not and i think to the australian prime minister s point, you read that clip earlier, minister s point, you read that clip earlier, he minister s point, you read that clip earlier, he was very apposite that we cannot
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