of the trump organization. but obviously as it relates to conspiracy to defraud the united states in the context of russia there are lots of reasons to be wondering what connections jared kushner has in that actually was in the june 9, 2016, meeting with the russian operative obviously with paul manafort and with don junior. so you do want to know what he knows and what he was connected to. there s no question it could be any number of things, but we ll only know as the evidence starts to become public. maya, thank you very much. and now to some breaking news on a mystery mueller hearing today and it is highly intriguing. mueller s team at the u.s. court of appeals for the d.c. circuit to hear a mysterious argument about a witness defying a grand jury subpoena. you can imagine it was on lock down with the court staff closing the entire courthouse floor where the case was actually being heard. joining me now is a reporter for
and tim o brien, donald trump is trying to negotiate this deal with russia at the very same time russia is attacking our electoral process, invading through cyber crimes, stealing e-mails from the democratic party. and so vladimir putin is getting very clear communication from donald trump that donald trump wants to be in business with vladimir putin while vladimir putin is waging this war on the american electoral process. i think, you know, you ve hit on a very central issue here which is the crinology on all of this. trump previously has said they stopped negotiating to deal with this in 2016. michael cohen as said it continued into june of 2016. that infamous trump tower meeting where don junior met with russians that had compromising information on hillary clinton took place on june 9, 2016.
has already considered attacking the american election. russian hackers are already into the dnc. nothing s been released yet, but this plan is under way. and then you have what tim just mentioned in june 9, 2016, you have the top three guys on the campaign, paul manafort, donald trump, jr. and jared kushner agreeing to meet after being told this meeting was part of a russian plan to secretly help the trump campaign. so what trump is doing again and again in his public remarks is sending a message to putin and to the russians i ll take whatever help you can give me. you want to do something underhanded i m fine with that, too. so he is basically telling them go ahead, attack american democracy, subvert our election, i am fine with that. and later on of course he amplifies the russian misinformation they weren t doing this. so this is the message. he keeps signaling to putin i
and so vladimir putin is getting very clear communication from donald trump that donald trump wants to be in business with vladimir putin while vladimir putin is waging this war on the american electoral process. i think, you know, you ve hit on a very central issue here which is the crinology on all of this. trump previously has said they stopped negotiating to deal with this in 2016. michael cohen as said it continued into june of 2016. that infamous trump tower meeting where don junior met with russians that had compromising information on hillary clinton took place on june 9, 2016. this deal trump tower moskow fell apart on or around june 14th. so within days the russians have
running for president, he is telling putin i want your help. i want your help to make money in your country. now, putin at that point in time has already considered attacking the american election. russian hackers are already into the dnc. nothing s been released yet, but this plan is under way. and then you have what tim just mentioned in june 9, 2016, you have the top three guys on the campaign, paul manafort, donald trump, jr. and jared kushner agreeing to meet after being told this meeting was part of a russian plan to secretly help the trump campaign. so what trump is doing again and again in his public remarks is sending a message to putin and to the russians i ll take whatever help you can give me. you want to do something underhanded i m fine with that, too. so he is basically telling them go ahead, attack american democracy, subvert our election,