spot. you know, he s a sitting president who has been indicted. and some other members of harun who have also been indicted, he s right on the border of south sudan. it makes it a very difficult position for us. but you can continually tighten their ability to maneuver and to do things by taking away by going after their assets. larry: have you met with him? no, i haven t. i went to khartoum, which was an interesting trip. and went to a lot of the idp camps there. but i asked to meet with him, but he didn t i think i had said a few things that probably got me in a little bit of trouble with him. larry: how about the president of southern sudan, salva kiir, have you meet with him? several times. john knows. we had a good couple hours with him just talking about the
him? several times. john knows. we had a good couple hours with him just talking about the possibilities of war, and how resolute they are in not just in the referendum and voting for their independence, but that this area with all the oil, abia is part of the south. and if they tried to peel it off, that would create war. larry: americans facing so many serious issues here at home. we ll ask george and john how that impacts their cause. that s next.eb ze freshness. it helps eliminate odors while you clean and condition. you may never go back to your old furniture polish. science! [ female announcer ] swiffer gives cleaning a fresh new meaning.
larry: he wants the world to wake up to the threat that could result in a million deaths. they have been captured and they have been tortured and they have been raped and murdered. larry: is time running out in sudan? george clooney for the hour is next on larry king live. good evening, by the way, i have a little catch in my throat tonight, so if you hear me itching, that explaining it. george clooney, the award winning actor and activist, just returned from southern sudan, a region that secretary of state hillary clinton describes as a ticking time bomb. with george is john pendergast, he s traveled to sudan and he s the co-founder of the enough project. that s an anti-genocide advocacy organization, the enough moment fighting to end africa s worst crimes. he joins us from the national press club in washington. when people hear your name,
larry: john, does the u.n. have a strong presence in this? the u.n. has a billion-dollar a year peace-keeping mission in southern sudan to go along with the billion-dollar a year peacekeeping mission in darfur. so they re on the ground, not particularly effective as effective as we would like to see them be. we would like to see them much more be focused on protecting civilians and the united nations security council led by susan rice came, and they are going to look at how to strengthen the mandate. but they re there, so we have a huge infrastructure that s there. we have a vote looming on january 9. the united nations can be the vehicle for getting those registration materials out, for ensuring that that vote can occur in as credible a fashion
and all of the children from all of the schools and in their dress shirts were standing out with signs saying, you know, thank you to the u.n., and please help us with peace. larry: but doesn t it harden them, george? i would imagine it just makes you more resolute. i would imagine. i don t know about hardened. you know, there are certainly people that are hardened. but boy, there s some amazingly i mean, just beautifully kind people. larry: john, our special enjoy to sudan, the retired general scott grecian, he has taken heat from some advocacy groups. some have called for his resignation. they re saying he doesn t do enough. what do you think? i think we re focused on now the fact that there is such a short time left. general grayson is out there in the region, he is out there, along with other american