we don t know that. we have no indication when it is coming down, juan. no, i think the politics and we saw this in the report earlier in the show for the longest time had the administration approving this project. if it s just a matter of the jobs the 40,000 figure is really not about people working on the pipeline, it s about suppliers, subcontractors, people in hotels for the workers. if you are just talking. it s still a job. it it s a very femp rather job. it s 50 more permanent jobs than solyndra. yeah, we can politicize it. bret: that s what steve hayes said the other night. if you are looking at this and trying to make a decision in terms of the enenvironmental impact. you are going to have to look at what exactly is the jobs competition. state department says by their own measure this would have negligible impact as a job producer for the united states economy, in the big picture getting the u.s. off of
better crafted and been bigger, we had $87 billion for infrastructure, the number one job producer of well-paying american jobs and that spurs investment. had we had four or five times that, might have had a much greater and significant boost to the economy. i think we can do those things and at the same time take care of the long term. and i think the long term is a balance of what paul says and what you say, joe. we ve got to do something about entitlements because it isn t such a long term. medicare is sound because of the $716 million till 2024. yeah. so we re running out of time. and the things that paul is talking about, those things can bear fruit, but it s going to take 5, 10, 15 years. but understand, though, this year alone, every dime that washington received with the medicare and medicaid, defense, servicing the national debt, i guess the question, paul, is how comfortable are you give us your guidepost on how comfortable you are pushing the
gas wells have been drilled here in pennsylvania, called hydrofracking, often criticized by environmentalists, but former governor ed rendell says, done right tcan produce big benefits. it s a very big job producer. and these are good, blue-collar jobs that are well-paying jobs and can t be outsourced. reporter: perry and his wife have had enough in questions about supporter robert jeffers, an evangelical minister who calls mormonism a cult. this led to a comment by his wife, anita perry. reporter: this morning, perry defended his wife s defense of him. my wife said two things yesterday. she said he s the most conservative canned daught in the race and he s a christian.
gas wells have been drilled here in pennsylvania, called hydrofracking, often criticized by environmentalists, but former governor ed rendell says, done right tcan produce big benefits. it s a very big job producer. and these are good, blue-collar jobs that are well-paying jobs and can t be outsourced. reporter: perry and his wife have had enough in questions about supporter robert jeffers, an evangelical minister who calls mormonism a cult. this led to a comment by his wife, anita perry. reporter: this morning, perry defended his wife s defense of him. my wife said two things yesterday. she said he s the most conservative canned daught in the race and he s a christian.
way we solve these problems, and i think, hopefully, the president will. i think he ll reach out and, um, look for opportunities where there can be common ground. but there s no doubt that you, you know, we can t solve these problems. no one individual whether it s the president, the speaker, the majority leader, any of em, they cannot solve these problems by themselves. jon: well, you talk about one individual, you hail from arkansas where a guy named sam walton took his little five and dimestore and built it into one of the world s largest corporations, walmart. could he do that today in this regulatory environment? well, you bring up a great point, and one of the best things that any of them can do, i think, is to really focus on how we empower business and, more importantly, small businesses to be able to be successful and grow jobs. there is no doubt that small businesses in this country are the number one job producer, over 60% of the net new jobs annually created in this coun