he bought armor, he booby trapped his apartment. it s not the haphazard type of insane act that would lead to a successful insanity defense. as to a plea a dream the only plea i could imagine would be life in prison with no possibility for parole. that would spare the victims from the victims families from having to watch a trial and go through this and the defendant would be removed from society forever. other than that he is nicing the death penalty and that s his incentive to take such a plea. jenna esther your thoughts on that? i agree with dan. that would be the only plea i think that the community would support, that the victims i don t know if they would support it or not. but if they think that the preliminary hearing is going to be bad for the victims, just wait until the trial, it s just more, and more horrific and it doesn t seem to end. so if there is talk about a plea, i agree i can t imagine anything less than life without parole. but if it takes the death penalty
life imprison. that is the only possible plea that i could imagine. jenna i want to talk about the plea in a moment. esther, talk about what the judge did here. in this case and it s a very rare move by the judge that they are allowing the defense to call their own witnesses, and that happens apparently in colorado according to one report in less than 1% of these preliminary hearings. so it s very fair. how does that change things potentially? well it allows the defense to neutralize what s been coming out by the state and this horrific evidence and witness testimony that is going to come out about 12 people who were brutally murdered while sitting in their seats watching a movie. this is going to give the defense an attempt to try to explain the conduct, which in the end they are going to hope will mitigate or at least excuse, you know, if he was insane, why this in fact happened. i think also i think the defense wants the same opportunity to put on evidence, to perfect their reco
the victims families. jenna we just saw on the screen the victims faces. one of the larger questions we won t be able to answer today is what does justice look like real any a case like this. appreciate your thoughts, dan and esther, always, thank you for the time. thank you. thank you. jon: take you overseas where prince charles is about to get a new title, grand father. new reaction from the soon to be granddad, what he says must be done now so his grandchild won t be blaming him in the future. plus, we are awaiting president obama to officially announce his new picks to head up america s national security program. that announcement just about 030 minutes away. [ whistle blows ] hi victor! mom? i know you got to go in a minute but this is a real quick me, that s perfect for two! campbell s chunky beef with country vegetables, poured over rice! [ male announcer ] campbell s chunky soup. it fills you up right. constipated? yeah. mm. some laxatives like dulcolax can cause cramps.
0 interrogation techniques. it is clear the president is not concerned about that nominating process at this point. for the past four years john brennan has served as the president s top counterterrorism advisor at the white house. he will face questions about the administration s expanded drone assassination program. brennan has been the, at the forefront of that program. he was the first to come out in and publicly acknowledge it back in april of last year. brennan has been notably absent of any public discussions about benghazi for which he is likely to also face a degree of tough scrutiny. jenna? jenna: what, so that is for the head of the cia. these are big positions. let s move to the defense secretary as well. what can you tell us about the president s pick for defense secretary, the controversy down in d.c. surrounding potentially that choice? reporter: what has concerned both republicans and democrats, in terms of the choice of chuck hagel for defense secretary is does. it w