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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:38:00

david and andrew are together, are together willingly. and, are on the run. minneapolis newspaper reporter jim walsh and chris graves, started digging, and quickly herders different story from david friends. who didn t buy the love triangle. everybody who knows davis said that can t be true, it s not his dna, it s not who he is. the reporters talk to those who said they too saw david and you re with the dog. but it looked like david had been crying. david was described moody, withdrawn, and sort of grumpy is the word people used. it just didn t seem right. friends who knew david s dog walking routine insisted there was no way he was home at the time of chef s murder. madison walks the dogs and watches the news every night. right, and so the presumption is that jeff comes

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:27:00

was a center of attention. but, and this is no surprise, andrew conan s happiness was built on a fragile foundation, for months he juggled his benefactor, and his lover david madson, until in the fall of 1996, the man with the money, got wise andrew wanted a mercedes. and he tells norman, that unless he could have a mercedes, he is going to walk. out and norman says, okay, go ahead. and norman let him walk. which stunned him, so that took away a big piece of his income. and that mattered to him? absolutely, because that was who we was. norman s rejection began a kind of implosion. john wayne saw it. andrea started to let himself go. he was looking unkempt, which was so unlike andrew. and then, like a line of domino social world came tumbling down. the love of his live, david madison, broke up with him. his friend, jeff trail, moved on. all friends had they ve been falling out. and the mayor of her question and that mattered to him? absolutely, because that was who we

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:35:00

it all began to go wrong. he first called on his old friend jeff met. jeff may have sensed his visit may not have gone well. to talk about it. i could just tell that there was apprehension in his voice, he definitely wasn t happened about it but at the same time he invited andrew to stay with him. why would he do that? i think he knew andrew was on a downward spiral as well, so just trying to be a friend, being supportive. jeff, left andrew in his apartment, while he and his boyfriend went away for the weekend. on sunday, andrew moved to his new ex lover david madison s fourth floor loft in the cities eclectic warehouse district. i m persuaded jeff to drop five for a visit. sometime in the next hour or so, a neighbor reported hearing somebody yell, get the f out of here, and heard banging.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:25:00

any new cute guys in town. and he would be the first guy to know who they were. and starred presenting them. like a non working man in bob. yeah. didn t seem any interest to having a job? no. i think he pretended to the whole world that he was this rich kid living off a trough fun. and he didn t need to work. and for some reason, people bought his story. jeff trail, for instance. an outstanding guy, who became andrew s friend. jeff trail was the all american boy. a graduate of the naval academy. politically conservative. he hated drugs, he didn t drink. one of jeff s closest friends, was john wayne. people like jeff. he just had a lot going on for him. jeff was very tentative about coming. out he never came out to his family. the friendship worked for a while, and while jeff shied away from drugs, andrew didn t. desperate to be, notice he

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:28:00

the love of his live, david madison, broke up with him. his friend, jeff trail, moved on. all friends had they ve been falling out. and the mayor of her question can erupt decline. when the allowance went away, there were lots of reports that surface about him during this time, being more heavily involved in the drug trade. harder stuff now, like crystal meth. at some point, as he became more and more unhappy, i think he also became more dependent. and of course, crystal meth brings you up. it also takes you down. and as maureen orth discovered, and we developed a taste for violent sex. the s and m part of this was very disturbing to me, because i spoke to fbi profiler s, who told me that for certain people, if they don t have real relationships of any kind in their life, and then, they depend on this to excite them, then the fantasies have to escalate. and he was just living off a

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