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We do know that Police Commissioner ramsey we are being told is on his way to this shooting scene. Obviously, like everywhere else across the region this afternoon, this area is blanketed by snow. So in addition to the heavy Police Presence out here we are looking at just snowcovered street but a large Police Presence again. As i was saying we are about a block away from where we believe the shooting actually occurred. They are holding the media back at 21st street and lehigh and the Police Presence as you would imagine in a situation like this out here is very significant, but other than police because it is such a snowy day in terms of pedestrians and other crowds thats relatively limited. We are just getting here and working to get some information and well bring that to you just as soon as we get it. George i know this is such a fluid situation and so much more that we have to learn. We have been told as you have echoed that two people have been taken into custody. Do we know if th

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