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Transcripts for MSNBC Chris Jansing Reports 20240604 17:50:00

found a body in the buoy river barrier installed by the state of texas. the mexican government not mincing words in their latest statement saying the buoys are a violation of their sovereignty. i want to bring in jay david goodman, bureau chief for the new york times reporting on this story. what more do we know about this and how else are officials in mexico as well as texas responding? well, what we know is that this body that was unfortunately discovered in the buoy barrier appears to have been a man who had died of drowning some time earlier. he didn t die in the barrier itself, but drowned up the river and what this really highlights is just the danger that crossing this rio grande has posed, you know, for a long time to migrants. you have dozens of migrants who have died in recent years crossing the river. but it also really underscores the way in which this buoy barrier has created a diplomatic

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Transcripts for MSNBC Jose Diaz-Balart Reports 20240604 14:23:00

that i ve seen transcripts of and video from inside the school that there was this decision made by arredondo, at least arredondo is on some recordings, telling other officers, you know, what the situation is and asking for more equipment, asking for keys and really waiting that hour and 17 minutes that it was from the time that the shooter went into the classroom to when they finally went in, confronted and killed him. david, you ve seen some of the transcripts, some of the video. what are some of the things that stuck out when you read those transcripts and when you saw what you saw? i think really the most jarring thing is just how the police after they initially go to the door of the or the doors of the two classrooms and take fire from the gunman, they pull back. they don t go to those doors again until they hear more gunshots, almost 40 minutes later. they hear some gunshots after the they initially arrive.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Jose Diaz-Balart Reports 20240604 14:21:00

that he was still serving and really demanded he not be granted that leave. and one of the councilmembers wanted leave and he was denied it. the parents cheered. he may lose his city council seat. the next day we had the announcement from the school district that he was being put on this administrative leave. that s kind of related in the sense that parents had been and other members of the yooufltd community had been complaining that he was still at work and they re in summer school now. you know, he s around the community, at least at the schools. and people obtained to seeing him around, given what we know about his role in the response. let s talk, david, about the investigation so far. what happened in uvalde a month ago tomorrow. there are so many questions out there, david. that s right. i ve had a chance to review some

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Transcripts for MSNBC Jose Diaz-Balart Reports 20240604 14:20:00

evening where participation is optional for students and families in light of what happened there a month ago. joining us with the very latest is houston bureau chief at the new york times, jay david goodman. it s good to see you. let s start with what pushed the district to put arredondo on administrative leave now? it s a good question. the pressure had been growing on officials in uvalde to do something with chief arredondo. not just his job as head of the small school s police force, but also he s a city councilmember, elected in may shortly before the shooting took place. so, you saw a flurry of activity taking place this week at a city council hearing where the city council had been prepared to grant him a leave of absence so he wouldn t forfeit his seat. parents came to the meeting and were quite vocal and quite angry

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Transcripts for MSNBC Jose Diaz-Balart Reports 20240604 14:24:00

they hear a few more. but they stay back. you can see on some of the video images that have been released, they remain in that distant position from the doors for 40 minutes. and then once they get closer to the doors, they still hang back or still, excuse me, don t go in. what s apparent from the video is no one has checked those doors to make sure that they re locked. there s an assumption they were locked, but you can see when the gunman arrivarrives, he walks straight into that classroom. clearly the mechanism was not working or somehow not fully closed, the gunman was able to go straight into the classroom and begin shooting. none of those officers in the video can be seen it s locked, they just assume it is, and they wait until getting shields and having, you know, powerful guns, they wait for keys. the director of the texas state police said on tuesday were not needed. david goodman, thank you so much for being with us.

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