syria. president trump needs to get in front of putin and tell him not to do that. the idea that some are saying this is trump groveling, like the hysterical column in today s washington post s said, is ridiculous. he is trying to get putin so thy can talk about syria, north korea, they major issues facing our two countries. that is president trump s job. jason: david, do you worry that as of the white house or do you think there s another venue you should be there? what is the worry about the two world leaders talking together? my worry is about the message we are sending to russia, when we are trying to create deterrence toward russian conduct, including the conduct where these nerve agents against people on the soil of our ally in england, sent mercenaries to attack our forces in syria, when it had a bogus election to elect putin. we should be deterring that type of conduct from russia. russia is an adversary to the
trump invited putin for a white house visits. remember, president obama met with putin many times while he was in office as well as meeting with president dmitry medvedev while he was in president, that infamous exchange wall president trump said that he would have more flexibility witn reelection. jason: a huge appomattox triumph for trump to arrange a future made with north korean dictator kim jong un. similarly, meeting with putin could help mend relations, not without risk. let s look into the prospects and perils with jim hansen, the president of the security cities group and former state department official and obama campaign advisor david to hurry. i want to start with you, david. do you think the president is making a mistake care or should he meet with president putin? this is pretty stunning news, because of the timing of how this happened. first of all, it happened in a phone call with putin where president trump s aides urged him not to congratulate trump not to cong
jason, i saw you on fox news sunday. you will bear polite about your disagreements with president trump. i agree, why is president trump pulling out of syria? s be when you re kind of off-topic. i m just trying to see if the two should meet. is the best thing for putin. he wants us to ball out of syria. he just had a couple hundred mercenaries jason: i m just trying to ask a couple weeks later, trump announces we are pulling out. jason: let me bring in jim. you have a perspective on us. should the president and president vladimir putin, should they get together? a good, healthy thing for the country and the world? of course they should. the idea that somehow when trump was talking to putin he should not suggest this is ridiculous. when all is he going to do this? the two of them are the top two leaders, the two people with him was to deal with right now, including syria, as david just mentioned. right now, russia, turkey, and a ran our meeting to carve up
u.s. russia is against democracy. it s against rule of law. and we are allowing jason: the united states and president trump did more to punish russia than the obama administration ever did. that is absolutely when most mercenaries came in and attacked us in syria, we didn t talk about it, we killed hundreds of them. the idea that trump is somehow soft on russia when he s done that, he expelled the diplomats, and if you don t want to have that region turned into war in the middle east, maybe you should talk to the other major power that is playing proxy where warfare we should go to russia because they put a few facebook ads calling hillary clinton stated? that is hardly the worst thing they have done. there is a lot bigger things in play. i think president trump and putin need to be face-to-face to talk about it. jason: you make a really good point, jim. the fact is that mercenaries went and attacked our forces. while our forces were in danger and they fought back agains
election win. he did that anyway. we find out anyway, not from the white house but from a kremlin that president trump also invited putin to come to the white house. the question is why is he doing these things, sending positive signals to putin, when everyone else, including our allies, are pushing back against russia? we just expelled russian diplomats. we are trying to send a message that russia has to back off. president trump is sending opposite message. jason: david, are you really arguing that the two leaders should not meet and not talk? you think that s bad? i actually think it s good to meet with foreign leaders, even our adversaries. but you have to do it in the correct way and you can t have a mixed message. jason: what s wrong with saying we should meet in the future? look he didn t say we would meet in the future. jason: when the president is diplomatic, you give him a hard time and say he should have listened to his aides. but if he was standoffish, you giv