sitting around a room and talking about things that didn t happen in the drinking. jaime roche and brett kavanaugh can t both be telling the truth here. this is not something that the fbi looked into. there are questions. there will be questions raised about whether or not they should. and for people who may not have seen the full interview 20 minutes that you just did with him, what stood out to you the most? what is the most important thing you think the american people learned from hearing from him? i think saying brett kavanaugh lied under oath. that is a serious claim to make. serious and new and specific. he says he specifically lied about his memory loss while drinking. brett kavanaugh then specifically lied about some of the terms he testified to to the u.s. senate. i think that has the most lasting significance. and then i think why he chose to
brett kavanaugh denies this happen. he denies jaime roche s version and says jaime has an axe to grind. i know poppy and jim sciutto want to talk to you about it. if there is a silver lining to all of this drama and c controver controversy, it is the conversations that we re having with our own children and how important those are to start early. john, what struck me, as you talked to him there, his own willingness to acknowledge the limits of his knowledge. he claimed to have memories of things, but in the places where you couldn t fill in the spaces. he said, listen, i can t fill in those spaces there. he was doing his best to give a thoughtful account. i have to say, it strikes me. i asked him does he have a specific memory himself of brett kavanaugh not remembering something the next day after drinking, and he said yes. he said he remembers vaguely
future. find it all at cnn.com/business. it launches, you guys, later today. thanks so much for being with us. really, really appreciate it. the breaking news, the first senators getting a look at the few fbi report on brett kavanaugh. the washington post reports that fbi agents were prevented from looking at brett kavanaugh s past alcohol use and whether he lied to congress. so jaime roche says that the president s supreme court nominee lied under oath to the u.s. senate. roche also says he believes his friend debby ramirez who accused brett kavanaugh of exposing himself to her at a college party. joining us now is brett kavanaugh s former college roommate, jaime roche. if i can, i want to start with the specifics. you say you are 100% sure that judge brett kavanaugh lied under oath to the u.s. senate in two