Biden said he had spoken by phone for about 15 minutes with jacob blake who is now out of intensive care. He talked about how nothing was going to defeat him. How whether he walked again or not, he was not going to give up. I think whats unleashed with a lot of people is, they understand that fear doesnt solve problems, only hope does. And what i came away with was the overwhelming sense of resilience and optimism that they have about the response. His mom talked about my wife asked to say a prayer, and his mom said a prayer. She said, im praying for jacob, but im praying for the policemen as well. Im praying things change. In a statement family Attorney Ben Crump said mr. Blake senior talked about the need for reform because the excessive use of violence by police against minorities has gone on far too long. Made poignant by the fact in rochester, new york, yet another family deals with the pain of death of a man in custody. Well have that later on the show. The reason we havent shown