large lots of of issues in there harlan. thanks for joining us. harlan is a strategic thinker and innovator whose career spans the world s a business and government. he is a csis alum harlan s the chairman of two private companies and an advisor to the heads of major corporations and governments. he holds an ma mald and a phd from the fletcher school of law and diplomacy at tufts university. he was a distinguished visiting professor at the naval war college a professor of military strategy at the naval war college and is up eyes arnold deborah grove distinguish. columnists arno, of course also an alum of csis. so thanks harlan for joining us and welcome to csis. welcome back to see. many happy years there. let me first start off harlan with with the title of the book. you ve got two. a concepts to phrases in there that i think would be worth unpacking for folks. the first is the fifth horseman and then we ve got an and then the new mad, so can you first tell us what you mean
looming existential danger to a divided nation and the world at large lots of of issues in there harlan. thanks for joining us. harlan is a strategic thinker and innovator whose career spans the world s a business and government. he is a csis alum harlan s the chairman of two private companies and an advisor to the heads of major corporations and governments. he holds an ma mald and a phd from the fletcher school of law and diplomacy at tufts university. he was a distinguished visiting professor at the naval war college a professor of military strategy at the naval war college and is up eyes arnold deborah grove distinguish. columnists arno, of course also an alum of csis. so thanks harlan for joining us and welcome to csis. welcome back to see. many happy years there. let me first start off harlan with with the title of the book. you ve got two. a concepts to phrases in there that i think would be worth unpacking for folks. the first is the fifth horseman and then we ve got
companies and an advisor to the heads of major corporations and governments. he holds an ma mald and a phd from the fletcher school of law and diplomacy at tufts university. he was a distinguished visiting professor at the naval war college a professor of military strategy at the naval war college and is up eyes arnold deborah grove distinguish. columnists arno, of course also an alum of csis. so thanks harlan for joining us and welcome to csis. welcome back to see. many happy years there. let me first start off harlan with with the title of the book. you ve got two. a concepts to phrases in there that i think would be worth unpacking for folks. the first is the fifth horseman and then we ve got an and then the new mad, so can you first tell us what you mean and by the the fifth horseman and then walk us through the new mad because it is not the mutually assured destruction of the cold war. thanks, and i m going to add a third part of the title a divided nation, which is crit
government. he is a csis alum harlan s the chairman of two private companies and an advisor to the heads of major corporations and governments. he holds an ma mald and a phd from the fletcher school of law and diplomacy at tufts university. he was a distinguished visiting professor at the naval war college a professor of military strategy at the naval war college and is up eyes arnold deborah grove distinguish. columnists arno, of course also an alum of csis. so thanks harlan for joining us and welcome to csis. welcome back to see. many happy years there. let me first start off harlan with with the title of the book. you ve got two. a concepts to phrases in there that i think would be worth unpacking for folks. the first is the fifth horseman and then we ve got an and then the new mad, so can you first tell us what you mean and by the the fifth horseman and then walk us through the new mad because it is not the mutually assured destruction of the cold war. thanks, and i m goi
us. we re here to discuss with harlan omen the fifth horseman and the new mad how massive attacks of disruption became the looming existential danger to a divided nation and the world at large lots of of issues in there harlan. thanks for joining us. harlan is a strategic thinker and innovator whose career spans the world s a business and government. he is a csis alum harlan s the chairman of two private companies and an advisor to the heads of major corporations and governments. he holds an ma mald and a phd from the fletcher school of law and diplomacy at tufts university. he was a distinguished visiting professor at the naval war college a professor of military strategy at the naval war college and is up eyes arnold deborah grove distinguish. columnists arno, of course also an alum of csis. so thanks harlan for joining us and welcome to csis. welcome back to see. many happy years there. let me first start off harlan with with the title of the book. you ve got two. a concep