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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 04:02:00

[noise] the game s call, mel strap. a little ball on its track with the tiny mouse which, how every lever works in unison this would not be caught. and, how often things go wrong to allow the mice to get away. so, did what really have been could so accurately mimic a children s game? all, how nice! these are the people that have been to, the jessie family of orange county, california. they vacation together. yes, i m tired, i m ready to go home. share birthdays. this was for them. happy new year! even got together for a month of full but what these grainy home videos show is what is yet to come, which is murder, conspiracy. one branch of the family against the other. a game so twisted, quite so clever, that crafting a trap to

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 04:08:00

is just a few months before the murder when jack was diagnosed with colon cancer. the shock of course. but one of two shocks for sandra. and, to those around her, the second seemed somehow worse. her beloved son, tom up and moved. to arizona. and she was flipping out about it. yeah. she had to go. there she demanded jack moved to arizona to. that woman was off her rocker. her tone was just scary. it was like somebody else s voice coming out of her. but, surely that wasn t motive enough for murder. and, with plenty of suspicion, little else to go. on why it spent months pouring over sandra and jack s record statements, credit card bills, searching for, well he didn t know exactly what he was searching for. but, he was getting basically nowhere. we couldn t establish a pattern that was suspicious. then, why it s investigation

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 04:35:00

not the suspect and his key to tracking the case had skipped the case. a detective doug s jurisdiction. we were so close. the jessie family sense that they had been beaten that sandra jesse had one. had gotten away with murder. i put this pictures way i said this is tough. because he was so fantastic. put his pictures away? i had. to yeah. i couldn t look at them. at the dove home tom s wife patty began to worry about her husband s health. if he tends to hold things in and you can t hold in that kind of frustration and emotion without starting to affect you. i mean with that kind of stress it takes a toll on him physically and mentally. that s what you re worried about? exactly what i worry about. because she knew if he didn t solve the jessie case he might die trying. he s like a dog with a bone he s gonna take it and he s going to do it until it gets

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 04:06:00

the mall. it s only like five minutes in and i was on the road for only 15 minutes. and she was very, very specific about where she had gone, at what time and what she had gone. as for cheryl, she told detectives she do anything to find out what happened to her dad in those 15 minutes she was away from the house. her actions were very very consistent with somebody who understands that police are looking at you right now. i know i didn t do anything. i m gonna do everything i can to get full disclosure. and then, the day after the jack, just the murder, the guy walked into the bar, sat down on the bar stool and told the bartender a story about how the murder happened about who did it, about what s the motive was. the whole story. but of course that was just a story in a bar to take the didn t hear anything about. it and as he continue to dig for clues, he hit an unexpected wall. sandra, announced she had just

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 04:48:00

the story was a pretty detailed and amazing story. schrauben describe the whole affair on tape laid it out in all of a chilling detail. in a way of a murder the conspiracy was launched he said with a phone call from tom. he told me his moment after $50,000 to kill him. robbyn said he met with sandra in a parking lot. she gave him a 5000 dollar deposit. she won ejected and she wanted it done at the house to look like a robbery. she told me that she would leave her in x amount of time. and that s one schrauben said he hired a good friend to be the getaway driver. and on the afternoon of august 13 1998 while sandra was out having her nails done chauvin claimed he and the friend drove to the jessie house to murder jack. i was already having cold feet. and by the time i was walking down the street i was having

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