former president down this path on election interference and all of the people that he was bringing into the room. did it surprise you? chuck, i don t remember saying anyone was leading it. i don t remember there being a group of crackpot lawyers that were in the oval office that quite frankly should not have been allowed on the ground. you didn t tell me that the chief of staff you had said in various ways. i m happy to repeat it. the chief of staff is supposed to be a gatekeeper and make sure people are getting into the oval office and have the credibility to be there. frankly, this group of lawyers that were allowed to counsel the president and tell him what his itching ears longed to hear is that i had some right to reject votes or return votes to the state. there is no basis in that in history. look, chuck, our constitution
mike pence. he s also the star witness in the newest prosecution of donald trump. here is an indiana on the campaign trail. the first time i heard in early december someone suggests that as vice president might be able to decide which votes i could reject in which to accept, i knew that it was false. our founders had just won a war against the king and the last thing they would have done is this unilateral authority on any one person to decide who would be the next president. i dismissed it out of hand but sadly, president was surrounded by a group of crack pot lawyers who kept telling him what is itching ears wanted him to hear. and i made my case to what i thought my oath of the constitution were acquired, the president ultimately continued to demand that i choose him over the constitution. andrew weissmann is with us and, also joining our discussion timothy a former
vest unilateral authority in any one person to decide who would be the next president. i dismissed it out of hand but sadly, the president was surrounded by a group of crack pot lawyers who kept telling him what is itching ears wanted him to hear. and i made my case to what i thought my oath of the constitution to require, the president ultimately continued to demand that i choose him over the constitution. andrew weissmann is with us and, also joining our discussion tim heaphy, a former u. s. attorney s and the who served as lead investigator for the january six committee. and barb mcquade, a university of law school she s an msnbc analyst. tim heaphy, let me only getting to do that now, finally. he says the first time i heard about this, in early december,
trial, this will be in front of a magistrate judge. it is expected that he will hear the charges filed against him, have the opportunity to enter the plea and it should be over pretty quickly. this is the third time this year alone, so he should know what it on expect. paula reid, cnn, washington. some of trump s republican rivals in the 2024 race are reacting to the indictment including mike pence who had more tough words for his former boss. sadly the president was surrounded by a group of crack pot lawyers that kept telling him what his itching ears wanted to hear. and while i made my case to him of what i understood my oath of the constitution to require, the president ultimately, you know, continued to demand that i choose him over the constitution. but some republican hopefuls like ron desantis are lining up to defend trump against what they call the weaponization of government.
i m max foster. bianca is off today. but just ahead someone who engaged in that kind of bullying, a process that is fundamental to our system and to our self government, shouldn t be anywhere near the oval office. sadly the president was surrounded by a group of crack pot lawyers that kept telling him what his itching ears wanted to hear. i strongly disagree with fitch s decision and i believe that it is entirely unwarranted. hate has no place in our community. even though nothing will bring my dad back, i feel like a weight has been lifted and i can breathe a sigh of relief. live from london, this is cnn newsroom with maxes s fos