denies paying any journalist to publish favorable stories. we also know that glenn simpson met with russian lawyer. she s the woman at the very heart of the controversial from tower meeting with donald, jr., jared kushner and others. but simpson s lawyers say his clients knew nothing of the trump tower gathering. watch. he was shocked and surprised when this matter appeared in newspapers, in the news media this summer. keep in mind the house intel committee is still seeking fusion gps bank records to follow the money. martha: that s how you figure out the story, thank you very much. joining me now republican congressman sean duffy, and matt bennett, former deputy assistant to president clinton. good to have you you here. congressman, let me start with you. what you make of the latest revelations regarding fusion gps and glenn simpson? it reeks to high heaven.