the gulf of tonkin becomes an inflexion point in the lbj presidency. he ultimately doubles down on the war in vietnam. all the information i had was, that they were serious, and i felt at the time and i feel now that if confronted with an identical situation tomorrow i would respond the same way. for lbj it s escalation or appeasement, and he s damned if he will appease the north vietnamese and give into communism. barry goldwater was saying we know what the problem is, we should launch attacks against the trail. in the 1964 election, the republicans nominate senator barry goldwater, a right-wing senator from the southwest. they don t know whether to vote for him or just plug it in.
escalating the possibility that this could devolve into something very, very different and that s why this is such a dangerous inflexion point and why it does feel a little bit different. i don t want to overstate it, john, there have been cease-fire violations on a daily basis for some time. we visited the front line before, just a couple of weeks ago, and we heard a grenade, you know, land about 200, 300 feet away from us. it was right on the front line. this is slightly different or it felt slightly different from my perspective as a journalist on the ground, nearly three miles away from the front line, hitting a kindergarten, also hitting a house, i don t want to try to imply that those were specifically targeted as civilian structures, but certainly it does raise the specter as i mentioned before of things getting out of control and that s the real fear here, john. when ukraine knows that the russians could be plotting a false flag incident, a fake incident that would require ru
authorization from congress or even the american public. the gulf of tonkin becomes an inflexion point in the lbj presidency. he ultimately doubles down on the war in vietnam. all the information i had was, that they were serious, and i felt at the time and i feel now that if confronted with an identical situation tomorrow i would respond the same way. for lbj it s escalation or appeasement, and he s damned if he will appease the north vietnamese and give into communism. barry goldwater was saying we know what the problem is, we should launch attacks against the trail. the republicans nominate senator barry goldwater, a right-wing senator from the southwest. they don t know whether to
including, of course, the united states, is making a difference. but, again, as i have said before, rachel. the russian army is a very large, very powerful army. nobody should under estimate their ability to resupply and regroup. so we may be in a pause quite literally nobody, not me standing here, not the generals talking anywhere know exactly what the russian army is planning at this point. clearly they have had setbacks. clearing they are not giving up. rachel, steve, brian? steve: that s right. but it does say something, jonathan, you mentioned that the of the six cruise missiles which were launched by the airplanes in the area of the black sea, you know, obviously those were not dumb bombs. cruise missiles know exactly where they are going. they were trying to pick that out. however what it says is they don t have the people on the ground so they have got to fly somebody out there. right. and obviously we have seen over
they consider military targets over here. this airport where which they say was a an aircraft repair facility so presumably the russians would argue that some of the ukrainian air force planes may being repaired there that s being denied by local officials as i mentioned. they also hit the military base a few days ago. that is 30 miles outside of lviv. there is not a lot of strategic interest for them in lviv itself at this point, brian, so, for them to roll a column of tanks, for instance, right across here from east to west that would make those troops sitting targets, really, so they are not about to do that at this point, brian. steve: and jonathan, i m glad you just were talking about mariupol, and we put the map up and as you said it s in the south and it s in the east. mariupol city council came out in the last couple hours and said we are getting shelled between 50 and 100 times a day.