basis for the referral of mccabe. i actually think what it shows is that both of these men are independent decision-makers. and frankly, you know, it speaks to comey s credibility, even though he likes mccabe and they re friends and they work together, that he s saying what he believes to be the truth. i actually think i m not i m not in lock step with everything comey s done. i don t agree with him a hundred percent on everything, but i think this speaks to his character. we have a lot of evidence and public record and corroboration about james comey s roles in these events, more than we normally would. and i will say his judgment has been highly questioned by a lot of credible people. his honesty on the record and his ability to report facts has not really been questioned. so the factual part of this is interesting. for him, a fact witness, separate from the ongoing debate about the judgment. i want to fit in a break.
from health care around the world. a preview of a new gps special that prematures tonight at 8:00 p.m. but, first, here s my take. when i was in college in the early 1980s as part of a student organization, i invited ronald reagan s defense secretary casper weinberger to give a speech on campus y where yous american colleges were hotbeds of opposition to the reagan administration, especially to defense policies. sure enough, as soon as weinberger began to speech, a group of students stood up and began to heckle. one after another they rose and chanted a single line. deterence is a lie. i was reminded of that turbulent meeting because i have been listening to these debates over iran s nuclear ambitions. it highlights a strange role reversal in today s foreign policy discourse. it used to be left searching instead for options like the nuclear freeze, and it used to be people on the right who would patiently explain the practical virtues of deterrented. the conservative thinker
breaking news changes everything. first from fox at 3:00, former presidential candidate john edwards facing criminal charges, now, and, in fact, up to five years behind bars in convicted foralliedly using campaign cash to cover up an affair and a love child all the while his wife was sick with cancer. a federal grand jury indicting him. it comes after more than a two-year investigation in whether the north carolina democrat used political donations to hide his mistress from the media. john edwards was married and in the middle of a presidential campaign, his second, when he and miss hunter had a child in 2008. john edwards initially denies the affair. there is an article coming out saying you have a love child. do you have a response?
donald trump himself. you see there, who argued mccabe was racing to retire with pension benefits. mccabe losing effectively those benefits because of the doj firing over an alleged lack of candor for his conversations with the press about hillary clinton. this week, donald trump is blasting mccabe s old boss james comey and calling for him to go to jail. so this is very serious what we re reporting here at the top of our show tonight, what s happening right now. the president of the united states, attacking law enforcement, calling for the jailing of a witness to his own potential obstruction, while also 11 republicans in congress are calling for charges against comey, mccabe, lynch, and hillary clinton. and at this moment, the trump doj is now going way past that firing of mccabe over the supposed or alleged lack of candor and now considering indicting him, nbc reports. if indicted, mccabe would be a far less effective witness in any future case brought by bob mueller. if this former