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Transcripts for CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper 20240604 22:04:00

Us to discuss this, tom, let s start with trump s appeal in maine which was dropped, his lawyers are arguing that the secretary of state who made this decision to remove him from the ballot, they say she exceeded her authority and she is politically biased against trump. she is a democrat i believe and certainly not a fan. that is true. but, are those solid legal arguments? reporter: i think the trump legal team is on much stronger ground on their legal arguments about whether the 14th amendment applies to the president, whether it is self executing, so to speak, rather than going after the alleged political bias of the secretary of state. i understand why they are making that argument to set the table and try to put this in context of what they view as a politicized decision. but at the end of the day, i think the legal argument is

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Transcripts for CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper 20240604 22:17:00

Say a conviction would be a factor that would have them not vote for trump. and i think as these cases start, that meant the calendar didn t show the court dates in between, we are learning a lot of new information every week, expect the pace to kick up in january. and we don t know what impact that may have on general election voters in the way that we are seeing in the primary. trump is obviously doing quite well. speaking of the primary, nikki haley is out with a new campaign attacking governor ron desantis. ron desantis is lying because he is losing, he called china florida s most important trading partner, he has even allowed a chinese military contractor to expand just miles from the u.s. naval base. too lame to lead, two-week to win. honestly, i m not numb to it, that is strong language,

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Transcripts for CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper 20240604 22:22:00

Stage, i agree with you, that would be the right thing to do. you know, this reminds me of something, i m not comparing trump and obama, so everybody put on your laptops, but i do remember in 2012, i was a white house correspondent and obama went a year or so only really doing generally soft interviews. friendly interviews. the first debate with mitt romney, he was bad. and because he hadn t been with anybody really challenging him that i don t know what s going to happen when and if biden and trump ever face-off, but, i don t think trump is going to be in fighting shape. frankly, if i was donald trump right now, that is the strategy i would pick, risk version. i don t expect that he s going to make a lot of fireworks or do a lot that will really change the dynamics of the race, he doesn t want to change the dynamics. because right now he s on track

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Transcripts for CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper 20240604 22:16:00

Off ballot, that it would be appropriate for the supreme court to intervene because i don t think that in this case it is good for voters to not have the chance to decide that they don t want to have donald trump but they frankly could be politically smart for joe biden to come out and say, everybody who is on my side, i get it. i said what i think about what he did that day, but i m not afraid of this guy and i think the voters will choose me in the end. what do you think? i do agree with that, i think he s going to say bring it on, let s do this. but, the gentleman who brought the case is a republican, state senator, who had voted for trump who was so horrified by january 6, that he didn t think he should be on the ballot. what is important about that is, we are seeing in the polls, there is increasingly voters, republican and independents who

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Transcripts for CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper 20240604 22:02:00

Disqualify the former president based on the 14th amendment, also the 14th amendment of section 3 which says you can t hold certain offices if you have engaged in insurrection against the united states. that doesn t apply to the office of the president. this is not something that should even apply, and they also say that she is basing this on all kinds of facts that are not true, that trump is not actually an insurrectionist, based on those arguments, the former president and legal team are saying that the action by the secretary of state in maine to disqualify the former president should not be allowed to stay. of course, what this means, just by filing this appeal, this means that he will continue to be listed on the ballot in maine, pending the litigation that this now kicks off. and trump is still facing

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