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Transcripts For MSNBC Morning Joe 20240607-420

The question, though, is, there is tension between president biden and president zelenskyy. the issue is, again, exactly what arms are going to be supplied and, even more, how can they be used? what zelenskyy wants is not simply more arms sooner, but he wants a slightly greater envelope in terms of where and how he can use arms against russia. the united states is trying to balance what happens on the battlefield against, how would i call it, provoking russia to escalate, and there is also a tension underneath the surface between the united states and zelenskyy, not only over all this and the uncertainty of if donald trump were to be elected, but what ought to define success? mr. zelenskyy wants to liberate all the territory he lost, not just since 2022 but, more important, since 2014. people like me look and say, that s not wildly realistic. the definition of success may have to be dialed down. that s underneath it all. what do we have to accomplish here?

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Transcripts For MSNBC Morning Joe 20240607-2940

Now, that does not look like progress to me. that looks like a major setback. i think trump s victory almost challenged our historical belief system about america. that, in many ways, is what the forever war, america s unending conflict with itself, is about. a spirited debate about the new book the forever war, america s unending conflict with itself, one, i figure, we will continue in the weeks and months to come. come back and see us, nuclear bryant. thanks so much. we appreciate it. the new yorker s susan glasser joins us on fighting trump on the beaches, split screen of president biden s speech defending democracy with donald trump back home focused on what he calls the enemy within. plus, army combat veteran representative jason crow will be our guest, helping commemorate the 80th anniversary of d-day with president biden speaking again today in

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Transcripts For MSNBC Morning Joe 20240607-0

Want to keep on the jury. it really was the way it works. i do think, ultimately, this polling on how it s received might be even more important, but i also think that more transparency and having cameras in the courtroom might have actually helped more. like, the more people can see these criminal cases, the more they can see how they work, that s really important. also, i think this hunter biden case, even though, you know, the idea that they re charging him because he said he was an addict in the text message, i mean, that stuff is pretty convoluted, but, you know, it does make the case that the law is the law for everyone. these charges are pretty unusual, and they re doing it. there really is a sign that they re just going after everyone left, right, center. follow-up on the hunter biden case, you make a good point here. the president did not interfere with the investigation. in fact, he said yesterday in an interview he would not pardon his son, even if hunter were to

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Transcripts For MSNBC Morning Joe 20240607-4500

Revenge can be justified. susan glasser, this gets at what you re writing about this morning in the new yorker. this idea that donald trump, everything, everything is about him. you show up at a rally, and all you re hearing is the injustices being committed against him in the world, how he is a martyr and victim, everything else. you don t hear him talking about how he ll make lives better, which is what presidential campaigns used to be about. that s right. i mean, if you go back and look, this actually is a significant escalation and radicalization of trump around himself in a way that is quite different from his 2016 or even his 2020 campaigns. the other part of the agenda has diminished, and the all about trump part of the agenda has basically taken over fully. you know, to the point about contrast with president biden, it was a moment when biden makes a clear focus on, you know, sort

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Transcripts For MSNBC Morning Joe 20240607-360

Time, from other world leaders. today will be an important part, getting away from some of the commemoration, touching on that for sure, but talking about some of the present day concerns that face the president and allies of the united states here in europe. willie. we expect that meeting to happen just a short time from now, after which president biden will travel back to normandy for another speech today at pointe du hoc. senior white house correspondent kelly o donnell in paris for us this morning. thanks, as always. richard, a significant moment, piggy backing off the speech from yesterday, well received there and in many quarters of the world, where president biden used the themes of democracy, used the themes of supporting allies around the 80th anniversary of d-day to talk about the critical importance of continuing to support president zelenskyy and ukraine in the fight against russia. today, an even bigger symbol with the bilateral meeting a short time from now. all true.

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