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Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240604 00:44:00

institution and they took on something. they can say anything they want. i don t talk to them. i don t respond. i ignore them. your mother, when, injanuary 45, auschwitz was liberated by russian soldiers. yes. your mother and you spent weeks still there, and then you were, in the spring, sent back to poland. we went back, yeah. i think your mother said as you were leaving auschwitz, i think she said to you. ..as you were called then tola, not tova. tola, yes. i don t like that name. your name at that point was tola grossman. she said, tola, remember. remember this place. she also took me around to show me things. she took me around and she showed me soap. ..made from human fat. and i remember she said to me, shall we take it?

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240604 04:45:00

she showed me soap. ..made from human fat. and i remember she said to me, shall we take it? isaid, no, i m not even touching it. she wanted to remember. she wanted the world eventually. she never talked about it publicly, by the way. mm. and she only spoke to people who were there. earlier, when we were talking about your mother, you talked about the way in which some of her memories, particularly what happened with her nieces, was something she could never get over, and she died young and i think she died mentally very troubled, of course. very, very, very troubled. now, people talk about survivor s guilt after the holocaust, after places like auschwitz. right. is it a phrase that means anything to you? how would you describe.? i don t feel like that.

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240604 01:44:00

they can say anything they want. i don t talk to them. i don t respond. i ignore them. your mother, when, injanuary 45, auschwitz was liberated by russian soldiers. yes. your mother and you spent weeks still there, and then you were, in the spring, sent back to poland. we went back, yeah. i think your mother said as you were leaving auschwitz, i think she said to you. ..as you were called then tola, not tova. tola, yes. i don t like that name. your name at that point was tola grossman. she said, tola, remember. remember this place. she also took me around to show me things. she took me around and she showed me soap. ..made from human fat. and i remember she said to me, shall we take it? isaid, no, i m not

Mother
Auschwitz-death-camp
Anything
Soldiers
Yes
Russia
Injanuary
45
Smalljewish-ghettos-in-poland
Spring
Things
Name

Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDTalk 20240604 01:44:00

i don t talk to them. i don t respond. i ignore them. your mother, when, injanuary 45, auschwitz was liberated by russian soldiers. yes. your mother and you spent weeks still there, and then you were, in the spring, sent back to poland. we went back, yeah. i think your mother said as you were leaving auschwitz, i think she said to you. ..as you were called then tola, not tova. tola, yes. i don t like that name. your name at that point was tola grossman. she said, tola, remember. remember this place. she also took me around to show me things. she took me around and she showed me soap. ..made from human fat. and i remember she said to me, shall we take it? isaid, no, i m not even touching it. she wanted to remember. she wanted the world eventually. she never talked about it publicly, by the way. mm. and she only spoke to

Mother
Auschwitz-death-camp
Soldiers
Russian
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Smalljewish-ghettos-in-poland
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Spring
Things
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Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240604 03:44:00

i don t talk to them. i don t respond. i ignore them. your mother, when, injanuary 45, auschwitz was liberated by russian soldiers. yes. your mother and you spent weeks still there, and then you were, in the spring, sent back to poland. we went back, yeah. i think your mother said as you were leaving auschwitz, i think she said to you. ..as you were called then tola, not tova. tola, yes. i don t like that name. your name at that point was tola grossman. she said, tola, remember. remember this place. she also took me around to show me things. she took me around and she showed me soap. ..made from human fat. and i remember she said to me, shall we take it? isaid, no, i m not

Mother
Auschwitz-death-camp
Soldiers
Yes
Russian
Injanuary
45
Smalljewish-ghettos-in-poland
Spring
Things
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