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with joy. bird free design services at joy bird .com will ripley off pearl harbor, hawaii on the uss mississippi. and this is cnn. continuing to follow the breaking news that we brought you at the top of the hour. former vice president mike pence we have learned, will not appeal a judge s decision that requires him to testify to the grand jury about trump s actions leading up to the january 6th insurrection . as for when that testimony could happen, we do not yet have a date for that grand jury appearance back with us is norm eisen. he is a cnn legal analyst and was the house judiciary special counsel in trump s first impeachment trial. norm what is your reaction to this decision not to appeal this ruling by the judge. and how soon do you think we could actually hear or find out that he went to speak before the grand jury? i think the judge s ruling was correct. so i welcome the former vice president s decision not to appeal it. the judge made clear
are now doing daily briefings at the nypd, a briefing is expected today. they are also monitoring social media. as our team out here, have been out here this morning, we actually saw some nypd officers installing security cameras on top of the lampposts around here, both outside of this courthouse but also in the vicinity. so just another sign that they are increasing security with the real uncertainty of what will happen if the former president is indicted, john. kara scannell, keep us posted. we are awaiting possible arrivals any minute down down there. with us is cnn legal analyst ambassador norm eisen, he was also the house judiciary special counsel in trump s first impeachment trial. tell me understand what s going on today because i don t think i ve seen something quite like this before where you have a grand jury investigation and the person being investigated is allowed to basically ask for a witness at the end here. how is this going to work? who is going to ask costello que
anything. he doesn t believe the law applies to him of the and lies with impunity. there s no other way to describe hem. i want to go back to my point. what did he say his apartment was worth? $375 million. so then why isn t he responding by saying this is why my apartment is worth $375 million or that was an error or to the specifics of what is alleged rather than the democrats hate me? because donald trump has a fragile ego. over the course donald trump has a fragile ego. and during the entire trump administration, have you ever once seen him acknowledge an error? the answer is no. in fact in the 12 years that i worked for him, i had never heard him acknowledge an error. he is incapable of error, because donald trump is perfect. and not to mention, he couldn t then fight you on it because he knows it s a lie.
records, meaning they couldn t use it for grand jury purposes or with witnesses. now they can. and the appeals court stressed here when they sided with doj that really it could harm the country if investigators couldn t use that material. here s what they said in part. it is self-evident that the public has a strong interest in ensuring the storage of the classified records did not result in exceptionally grave damage to the national security. ascertaining that necessarily involves reviewing the documents, determining who had access to them and when and deciding which if any sources or methods are compromised. the court there saying doj needed to look at those documents. now doj does have the green light to resume using them, all while the special master and trump s legal team will no longer have access to these classified documents. that was the second thing the doj asked for. so a big win tonight for doj at the 11th circuit, don. laura, listen, all of this was because team trump wa