you look at the real-world examples, states where the minimum wage has increased, other times the minimum wage was increased under bush the last time in 2007, and you see there, you don t have job loss. you have unemployment either decreased or stayed the same or fell below the national average. it certainly didn t increase. right. and just taking her dispute into account, but just pretending that we all agree that it s correct, i just want to show as i ask you, tamron, the same question, the actual trade-off, higher wages for 25 million people, 9,000 people out of poverty and jobs lost. you have a lot of people getting a lot of benefits as against 500,000 potential job losses. so even if we just go ahead and stipulate that the cbo is actually correct, looking at that trade-off that you see, tameron, would you pursue it? i would push it, push it twice, three times if you ask me, absolutely. one thing we have to keep in mind, we know workers are going to get the benefit. the unkno