we are grateful. the the beat starts right now. you and everyone else in america is getting a law degree, one i paid for. but we are going to expend all that legal knowledge. thank you. and welcome to the the beat. i m katie phang in for ari melber. we have a lot to get to tonight. later, i will talk live to the lawyer for ruby freeman and shaye moss, the defamed election workers who won a $148 million verdict against rudy giuliani. now they are suing him again. plus, we ve got historian ruth who is here to talk about trump s threat to democracy and his gop enablers. we start the show with donald trump s desperation as legal deadlines pound him from the start, trump has tried to sow confusion, disgusting attacks on judges and witnesses, and above all, to delay his legal reckoning. the news tonight, special counsel jack smith is pressing forward with new moves designed to pressure trump and to stay on track. monday night jack smith forging ahead in the d.c. coup ca
and utah, in nevada, arizona. yeah. it s an incredible story and it s very important work. new mexico congresswoman teresa lacey fernandez, thank you very much. next trump tells republicans to either follow the line or fall pay the price. what the threats like that mean for democracy? we will ask historian ruth, ben-ghiat. but before the break, a preview of what is ahead tonight on ayman. hey there, i m ayman mohyeldin 90 am eastern i ll be joined by congressman dan goldman is calling for the department of homeland security to rita white ring extremists in within his ranks. congressman robert garcia will discuss his findings, from the hearing he checked chaired on ufos. i will ask both of them about donald trump s legal peril. that is tonight nine pm eastern right here on msnbc. overseas tours. i love to give back to the community.
is a run for revenge. so what does that mean for our country? let s ask ruth ben-ghiat history professor at new york university and author of strongmen, mussolini to the president. ruth, it is always a pleasure to chat with you. i just want to get your initial take on how dangerous trump s demands are for retribution especially if he s telling voters it s on their behalf. you know when he comes in and says, i am your retribution, people are eating that up. what does it potentially mean for the country going forward? they are. so there s one in this speech, one sort of discourses for the gop lawmakers and the other for the grassroots followers. what is very dangerous is that it s not enough for him to be the victim. has his legal problems mount, he can think, okay people can think i have too much baggage. so what do i have to do to keep people on edge and full of hatred is to get them to think
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