we should be able to figure out the technologies to keep our borders secure and create a path to citizenship, to people who came here, as long as they pay back taxes, pay a fine, learn english, and have a job. we should not allow excuses to derail this. and anybody you know, the heritage foundation report is a perfect example. you know, the heritage foundation, two plus two equals whatever you want it to be. let s not get hung up on excuses and say we can t do this, we can t do that. we need an imperfect compromise. this is a contentious issue. at the end of the day, we need a compromise. and house democrats are ready, willing, and able to compromise on all those issue, technology, border security, path to citizenship. we need some republicans to compromise with. speaking of security, i want to ask you about something else in the news. we showed the video yesterday on this program of the first 3d gun firing yesterday, and we know the blue prints will be available online. this alrea
rick: useing the agency s own estimat, researchers at the heritage foundation report that the epa s 20 major rules alone will cost $45 million annually. senator john barrasso, a republican from wyoming, joins us now. thanks so much for making the time. i understand that the confirmation hearing is going an an on as we speak, and you re about to ask your first questions of the nominee. give us some highlights. what s question number one? well, thanks, rick. you know, the epa, in my opinion, is failing america. all you need to do is take a look at this last week s abysmal jobs record, and what we know is that if the president really wanted to get people back to work, he would really rein in the epa. the regulations that continue to come out are burdensome, they re expensive and time consuming, and that s what i m going to be boring in on during the hearing. rick: i m just wondering about a balance. you re a medical doctor, you know the importance of clean air and clean water. how do
more transparent before the three major pieces of legislation. and democrat get three or five million grants to their district. i know there is a tradition of this. but it is a bad tradition and when we are running deficits, it has to stop. it has spiked recently. rich talked a before obama care. they got federal grants was 145 million and they went for obama care. it was all a coincidence. i whand rich is saying and there is no way to pressure the grants. the heritage foundation report was done by looking at when the grants happened and the legislation that was being passed. you don t think it is coincidence don t you, mike? no way to measure. only way to solve it, david,
income tax returns did not have to pay any taxes and actually ended up making money thanks to all those tax credits so is government working for the people or are the people working for government? joining us right now for a heated debate, perhaps, curtis dubai, a senior fellow at the heritage foundation and a millionaire and a member of the responsible wealth club, i guess, for men. curtis, first off for you, are you surprised by the ratios right now in terms of who pays and who doesn t? no, i m not surprised at all. we ve been going this direction for many years. people who fiollow taxes know this is coming for a while. 50% of people are paying no income taxes. dangerous tipping point. after that, hard to control the size of government. does it bother you the way the ratio breaks up right now? well, i must say that i find it surprising to hear a headline that says heritage foundation report is in favor of higher taxes. what i find interesting is this exclusive focus on the inco