vegas. to find out her visit freedom fest.com. get the booktv schedule at e-mail to you. to sign up coming as a website, booktv.work in alert that or use your mobile phone. text the word book 299702. standard message and data rates apply. now from freedom fest 2011, transfixed, author of in defense of the bush doctrine. mr. kaufman debates the merits with jacob hornberger, the founder of the freedom for future foundation. this is a little over 45 minutes. is about that time to get started. welcome, everyone, to her debate today on the bush doctrine, one of the most important issues within the political right and a key division between libertarian and conservative thinkers. my name is ryan calle and i m an opinion writer for the orange county register for a senior at the associate research institute. i am here to listen, much like you are on this very, very important issue. with two distinguished guests. to my far left, we have mr. hornberger here today, president and fo