i think it s long overdue. now congress has a lot of work to do because we have a very onerous law called the helms-burton law and we certainly have to go back and repeal that, or amend it. does it bother you, the prisoner swap aspect of this? because cuba s going to get back these three cuban spies, they re they were spying for cuba on united states soil. they re responsible for the deaths of some humanitarian aid workers. should this swap have taken place? is this a good thing? well, remember there s that trial which was held in miami has been appealed as to whether it was even a fair trial and there s new evidence that our government influenced the media there very strongly to get those convictions. we ve already allowed the release of two prisoners before their terms were finished so i think these other three prisoners have been there a long time, paid their dues. i think we ve been swapping
relationship. i think we ve lost congressman farr but thank you very much for joining us. i appreciate the democrat from california being here. i want to bring in thor halvorsen, he s the president of the human rights foundation. welcome. thank you. thank you for having me. is i have to tell you, the congressman was wrong on the facts, wrong on the law and wrong on human rights. it s really sad that a member of the u.s. government would say such things that are so outrageous on this show. comparing alan gross someone engaged in civil society and human rights work with men who murdered innocent people trying to leave cuba. again, it s embarrassing that a member of the u.s. government would say such things. i understand you were recently cuba and you were mistaken for alan gross? well, actually, the last time i was in cuba was about two or