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Transcripts for CNN CNN News Central 20240604 15:09:00

extreme like died or murdered somebody, and this is the only thing that would make them not vote for him and one of the other candidates and everyone in the group was more or less for donald trump, and they more or less believed that donald trump would be the nominee coming out of iowa. and so, jackie kucinich, you are hearing something that sara said there that, yes, he is maybe fighting for second place, but ron desantis is maybe fighting for his political future here. there is the time s article that came out talking about hospice care and you want to keep the patient comfortable, and how much does he need to be concerned about what happens to him even if he does not win the nomination? yeah, you don t want quotes like that particularly if you are running for president and a couple of week before iowa, but certainly, john, ron desantis has positioned himself particularly coming into the race as the next big thing when it comes to republican politics. he wanted to be the leader

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:44:00

saying, you must be a moral man to be president of the united states. you know, when character was king, people running around, doing things, saying things like that, looking to the good old days when people weren t like bill clinton. bill bennett writing his book of virtues. oh, my god. now, another hack defending donald trump and going to the wall. charlie sykes, it s crazy. i will say this, charlie, and i ve talked about it on the show some, my family members, my friends, the people that had no problem telling me, even when donald trump was calling me a murderer, who voted for trump in 16, who voted for trump in 20, they re done with him. i hear it time and it is anecdotal. i always hear, don t believe anecdotal evidence. i ll tell you, on the campaign trail, when you start hearing something, you can believe it. time and time again. but i m hearing this. that s why i still am a little

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ana Cabrera Reports 20240604 14:59:00

i have a twofer for you. we re hearing something pretty interesting from kevin mccarthy today as well? reporter: yeah, all my beats colliding in the same place, and that s great, because what nikki haley is trying to do is establish a pattern for giving policy speeches and it was abortion access and now on foreign policy, and she s trying to speak about the current moment with china, and this current moment with russia and giving forceful words and contrast with former president trump giving him credit, for example, for sort of leveling the playing field on u.s. and china relations and saying he didn t do enough and it s notable, especially as we are watching haley and the rest of the field try to find points of contrast with trump. what we are also seeing is the

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 02:07:00

but if you think about what we saw in the manhattan case, we were looking to see that defense lawyers were given an opportunity to be heard. that s really the thing that you do in a case like this at the final stage. and we saw the defense lawyers going into day to make their final attempt about where why there should not be charges. it is conceivable that that could prevail, but i think even that it is, theoretically a possibility, i just think in this case, knowing jack smith and his team, and the people hearing the appeal that it is extremely unlikely that they would be hearing something that would lead them to conclude that there should be charges. and this is the sort of the thing you do at the very end. i also think that there is internal pressure, even if they re not admitting it themselves, that this is a case that needs to be brought to the american public, they need to know whether this happen or not, and it needs to be brought to trial. this is just not one where you

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 05:07:00

extremely unlikely that they would be hearing something that would lead them to conclude that there should be charges. and this is the sort of the thing you do at the very end. i also think that there is internal pressure, even if they re not admitting it themselves, that this is a case that needs to be brought to the american public, they need to know whether this happen or not, and it needs to be brought to trial. this is just not one where you want to delete dally. and jack smith carried this case in the doj. he s been on the job all that long, and has really put the pedal to bring this case. the other point i d like to make is unlike the manhattan case where a lot of people have talked about whether trump would be treated differently if his name were not trump, here, in a case involving classified documents, it would be a violation of the rule of law if donald trump were not charged based on all the facts we know. just last

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