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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 05:09:00

do on january six. cassidy hutchinson testified that tony ornato told her, in the white house, that donald trump tried to go to the capitol, on january six, to join the attackers of the capitol. cassidy hutchinson testified under oath, that tony ornato told her that donald trump physically struggled with one of the secret service agents in the car when he was demanding that they take him to the capitol. the secret service deleted every text message about that incident in the car, and everything else that happens on january six. including possible text messages about vice president mike pence. did tony ornato send a text message to mike pence s secret service agents at the capitol, telling them to take the vice president away from the capitol? did james james murray sent a text message saying that to the agents of the capitol? to take the vice president away.

Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 05:10:00

were secret service agents trying to remove the vice president from the capital for his safety? or were they trying to remove the vice president from the capital so that the vice president could not certify the electoral college vote? there could be answers to all of those questions in the text messages, deleted by the secret service, which could not have happened without james murray s permission. donald trump knew that the secret service director, that he chose in april of 2019, was going to be the secret service director on election day, i and was going to be the secret service director and the next inauguration day, and that the secret service director might be asked to do things that no other secret service director in history ever had to do. someday, and that day may never come, i will call upon you to do a service for me. whatever the specific words were in donald trump s ten minute interview with james

Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 05:14:00

service personally do that? is that the service that he did for donald trump? james murray was hoping to slip out of town quietly at the end of the month and start his new career in the high-paid world of corporate security. he is scheduled to begin his new job as the head of security for snapchat in august. whoever is handling the preservation of electronic records at snapchat now, is doing a better job of it then james murray will be able to do. here is someone who james murray used to work with. this is one thing and one thing only. this is an attempt to silence conservatives like you and i, from communicating, before the 2022 election, that is all that this is. and it s a message being sent to anyone who supports donald trump either now, or in the future. that it is open season on you. it s hunting season for your private communications. don t you dare talk about your intentions. or coordinate, or do anything to get republican elected again, because liz cheney will make

Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 02:02:00

technical witnesses, and you will see and hear, the mother of the mass murderer in uvalde texas, who was confronted by other mothers, today, mothers of the murdered children. telemundo captured that confrontation on video and we will present it later in the hour. but we begin tonight with james marie. the director of the secret service who has remained in that position during the biden administration, even though he was appointed by donald trump. the first director of the secret service appointed by donald trump was actually chosen by john kelly when kelly was the secretary of homeland security. the secret service is under the jurisdiction of homeland security, and kelly believed that is brand, a retired marine corps general, randolph alice, was the kind of outsider that the secret service needed to take a fresh look at the management of the secret service, which does much more than just protect the president with its three billion dollar

Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 05:02:00

administration, even though he was appointed by donald trump. the first director of the secret service appointed by donald trump was actually chosen by john kelly when kelly was the secretary of homeland security. the secret service is under the jurisdiction of the department of homeland security, and kelly believed that is brand, a retired marine corps general, randolph alice, was the kind of outsider that the secret service needed to take a fresh look at the management of the secret service, which does much more than just protect the president with its three billion dollar budget. the secret service duties have always included policing counterfeit money. and now include highly sophisticated investigations of financial crimes involving electronic communications. which makes it all the more ironic to put it mildly, that the secret service has lost the most important electronic communications in the history of the secret service.

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