what he knows. he knows when he knew it. he knows what he did, and he wanted a pardon. and you just wrote that s right. and this becomes for me, the hearing about mark meadows. and it seems to me that the committee s ambition wants today was to deliver a very high speed, direct message to the justice department about mark meadows. their first point of communication with the justice department was, we certainly had a criminal referral on him for defying our subpoena. and you did nothing, and you did nothing, and then you did more nothing for months, and months, and months. now, they really have the goods on mark meadows in this testimony, and once they knew they could deliver it in this effective package, which required, some discussion and negotiation with the witness and the witnesses new attorney, who is not on the trump team. they decided we re gonna go out there, we re gonna deliver this today at very high speed, directly to the justice department, about the person who the ju
they would not hurt. i think it is a whole bunch of new questions about his role in the conspiracy. he was absolutely sure that he would be fine if the mags were taken down, come in with your ar-15s, guys. i think we have 1 million more questions. this almost begins phase two of the committee s public hearings. nicole, in terms of what was described between cassidy hutchinson and the deputy white house chief of staff, the deputy white house chief of staff for operations, talking about security. him saying that he had briefed the president on the presence of weapons among the crowd. he had briefed white house chief of staff mark meadows. those interrelated communications, it sounds to me from the way you are talking about this, like those run true in terms of those lines of communications, and the way they happen. we also had stuff that was very much outside anything that you would plan for.
that there is an off the book coup that is being spread it out of the willard hotel, with the people that we know, right? the roger stone, steve bannon s, that basically meadows has right into, and essentially, he s the only staffer who had into that, right? the implication of all of this they don t tell us that today. they created the possibility that that is true. but the implication is he knows more than he s willing to say, that he s having these conversations conversations that he can be a part of, that he s reacting, while everyone else was alarmed at the bewilderment. he s going crazy that s the whole theme of the day. and you can sort of narrow down even further from that. like, we get a lot of testimony today, and it s disconnected from everything else about the fact that mark meadows wanted to go in person to the willard hotel, to go participate in these war room discussions on january 5th, the night before january six, and that miss hutchinson thought, who was a