saying president hasn t done anything to get terrorists. jon: no, what he said our policy in libya is unraveling. look, first of all when the president is arguing somehow he decimated al qaeda when all the evidence is now to the contrary is a blatant falsehood. but secondly look, the part of the problem for biden and way he carried himself, he didn t just smile and giggle at that inappropriate moment in libya which is turning into huge scandal for the administration but laughing about iran and nuclear weapon. he was laughing through tax policy. every single major challenge he was laughed about i had this inappropriate smirk or laughter. what that tells you he either so unstable as a man shouldn t be one heart beat away from the presidency or he and his boss are fundamentally unserious about the challenges facing america. jon: monica crowley, julie roginsky, great discussion. thath thank you both. jenna: new details in the deadly meningitis outbreak a