grandfathering bare bones plans. andrea, at the end of the day we can fix a broken website. it will be fixed. you can t fix broken ideas. in fact, republicans don t have broken ideas, they have no ideas. you can t fix no ideas. there s nothing they have to replace this week. they have no vision for america. they continually show that. the emphasis on going backwards as opposed to going forward. andrea, if you remember when medicare part d passed, democrats didn t like that. we didn t stop implementation, we didn t cry crocodile tears and undermine it, we saw it through. the affordable care act, that s not been the case around the country, governors not implemented change but working towards defeat, undermining legislation. that s not the way the american people want to see it go. congressman crowley, thanks very much. thank you, andrea. thanks for being with us. fifty years after john f.
talk show host and a fox news contributor. good to see you both. hi, gregg. gregg: doug, in a meeting three years ago the president was caught on tape admitting that millions of americans under obamacare would actually lose their health plans and yet he persisted for three years saying just the opposite. turns out now that millions, five million so far, are losing their plans. take a look at this fox news poll that s just out. half of the voters believe that the president knowingly lied about that. 40% say, well, he didn t know, which, is arguably, even worse, since it s his signature bill. can he survive this thing, doug? well, that s why martha s report now was just so timely. because i don t think they can survive with obamacare in its current form without grandfathering in health insurance, particularly five to
of pressure from democrats saying, look, mr. president, we cannot go home to the mess that is happening in our states and expect to get reelected at this moment in time. rich lowry joins me now, editor of the national review and a fox news contributor. rich, i open it up to you there. what do you make of all this? it is ap amazing an amazing moment. he is facing a bipartisan revolt, and this is a key event because he s going to announce the so-called administrative fix and how this is perceived by democrats is the key thing here. if they think it provides enough cover, then it will stem some of the defections over to this republican grandfathering bill in the house. if they don t, well, then it could be katie, bar the door, and you could see a full-scale stampede. martha: i just can t imagine how you sort of undo this because we all know people who got those letters, and their policy was ending, so they ve been scrambling to get a new policy to. many have already signed up, but i
on the law, do you think this will undermine it and this will keep young and healthy people from being in the exchanges? i think it could. it depends on what congress does. there is a range of options. there is a short-term option that could grandfather people here for a couple of months. that would not have an enormous effect. they could grand father people for a year and have a serious negative effect. we will have to see. it depends how many people choose that. the real disaster is the upton bill. that s clearly a horrible approach to undermine the law. not only grandfathering, but allowing the uncomprehensive plans to continue. there is no argument for that other than to undermine that. one of the architects of mass law and the affordable care act itself. you are becoming a familiar face
number of people. you are talking fewer than 5% of people that buy on the individual market. insurance companies used to love selling insurance to the people. by and large, they were male, healthy, single. weren t going to have a baby. people who probably never use insurance they were healthy, they would never have to avail themselves of coverage that if could sell them junk plans that were cheat but that didn t have much in them. god forbid you get sick. if they start going back and grandfathering in more of the junk policies, i don t know how that strengthens the law. think it weakens it. david kay johnston, the target that jay carney drew, pretty narrow one. people in the market place who cannot afford or find a plan that they can afford. now, most, a lot of people we are talking about will get subsidies in the, in the system, so the affordability factor actually applies to very, very few people. yeah, most people will actually be better off in the