everything else is noise. joining me now to discuss, our lead off panel, luke broadwater, pulitzer prize-winning congressional carol leonnig, investigative reporter with the washington post, and former u.s. attorney joyce white vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. thank you all. joyce, let s start with you. michael cohen is central to this case. do you think costello s testimony will have an impact? is cohen s credibility a problem for da brag? cohen s credibility is a central issue in this case. he s previously been convicted. he s written a book called revenge, certainly, trump s lawyers will suggest that s what he s trying to get through this testimony. the reality is, and cohen said this today on every melber show, the district attorney will have to meticulously corroborate cohen s testimony at trial. now, we re just talking about grand
is cohen s credibility a problem for da brag? g? cohen s credibility is a central issue in this case. he s previously been convicted. he s written a book called revenge, certainly, trump s lawyers will suggest that s what he s trying to get through this testimony. the reality is, and cohen said this today on every melber show, the district attorney will have to meticulously corroborate cohen s testimony at trial. now, we re just talking about grand jury proceedings, and putting costello in front of the grand jury s last-ditch effort by trump to avoid indictment, it seems unlikely that it works since the grand juries did not request to hear from michael cohen again, after hearing from costello, to indict the have to find there is probable cause to believe that crimes were committed. that is a relatively low threshold for them to reach. just to be clear, joyce, in
i think, whoever went firs will recede in importance at that point it will be all low for the national minefield for the former president charles, when will we lear what the nature of the evidenc is against donald? trump in a manhattan case if there are charges? that s gonna be up to the discretion of the judge, i terms of how to the grand jury proceedings will be released those things are reviewed by the judge once they ve turne in and went the indictment i done, the minutes will b reviewed by the judge, and i suspect that alvin bragg, even if he is allowed some level of discretion from the judge is still going to keep a very tight lid on this. as did not prejudice anythin related to this case, because, as you ve already pointed out, i fully expect that donald trump is going to go on th advance of an attack the credibility of that office he s going to attack the credibility of the witnesses, fully suspect it is also going to seek to change the venu outside of the five boroughs t
that s gonna be up to the discretion of the judge, i terms of how to the grand jury proceedings will be released those things are reviewed by the judge once they ve turne in and went the indictment i done, the minutes will b reviewed by the judge, and i suspect that alvin bragg, even if he is allowed some level of discretion from the judge is still going to keep a very tight lid on this. as did not prejudice anythin related to this case, because, as you ve already pointed out, i fully expect that donald trump is going to go on th advance of an attack the credibility of that office he s going to attack the credibility of the witnesses, fully suspect it is also going to seek to change the venu outside of the five boroughs t try and get a courthouse tha is going to be much more favorable to him then he l find between what he s facin in manhattan or anywhere els within the five boroughs of ne york city. charles coleman and harry lippman, thank you both very much for starting off ou dis
the room to testify with immunity deals already in place? maybe a dozen? in a series of interview today, kohrs also told the atlanta journal-constitution that the panel heard more recordings of trump phone calls. that, is in addition to his infamous call to georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger, asking him to, find 11,000 votes. this is what kohrs said about those calls. we heard a lot of recordings of president trump on the phone, declining to give specifics. it is amazing how many hours of footage you can find that mine man on the phone. some of these that were privately recorded by people or recorded by a staffer now, this is a person who volunteered to be the four women of the special grand jury but did not vote in 2016. she did not vote in 2020. in fact, she told the atlanta journal-constitution that she has never voted before, period. and until the grand jury proceedings, i ve kohrs never heard the infamous call between