we hear saakashvili welcome to conference so thank you for inviting me it s been a bizarre few weeks for you one moment you re promising to unite for the opposition against the president then you re threatening to throw yourself off the roof of a block of flats well that s not that s not exactly true i didn t throw myself out i told them you know i told if they come and try to put handcuffs on me we would all fall and that was actually true but they never tried it at that place but i went to the roof because my cell phone was jammed and i needed to call people saw i had to go to the roof it had very problematic written till the end one person message got through at the edge of the roof so that s how telecommunications worked but this is this is street thirty involved and a lot of people are wondering whether you ve lost the plot and that well look it s not about me i think people have you made it about you then which made it about you yeah well it s a little trick in their lives the on
yes yes huge holes in the transport in two thousand and eleven the european court of human rights just slammed the entire investigation and implicated you in the cover up didn t in all of us and it said it was struck by how the different branches of state power at the ministry of interior the public prosecutor s office the prisons department the domestic courts and the president of georgia all acted in concert in preventing justice from being down that s a huge allegation against you at the same time the european court of human rights just last december it sat on the case against my former prime minister who is in prison that he is the only he is basically hostage to the fact that they were looking for some kind of evidence against me and because they refused to provide it it was purely a political case the government of georgia have hired best world investigators like what will president here totally out of this government of georgia that s controlled by because private shareholders t
that was quite a message for the government that s why i think it s also interesting judge it really showed it that i m not alone and people are standing but that s what matters let s let s talk about georgia don t you the fifth in a sense here convicted you of abuse of power gave you a three year jail term. they say that in two thousand and eight you misused your presidential pardon for police officers convicted of the murder of a banker sandra give clearly and the pardons were part of a deal to cover up evidence surrounding the killing yes well look you say that s a lie no nobody has ever tried it more than just your presence for party you remember bill clinton. you know pardoning it s not just about partly it s about whether you covered up evidence surrounding to kill nobody has ever. short makes it absolutely limited right for president or the first second. term and they were pardoned together with hundred thirty three military officers potential holes yes
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we showed the people different and i think that some kind of legacy even if i m not i m totally unhappy with it and i m not satisfied with my performance but we could achieve as much as we could let me put it this way the trouble was the job wasn t high profile enough wasn t big enough didn t have enough power and you re still hungry for power run amok job there s a governor was very high profile in ukraine because it was the front line of fighting for it for basically for against corruption and for unity of ukraine to talk to western journalists in december last december that you had your eyes on a role in the future government ideally as problem in the world social you re hungry no power let me let me put us in a way to put a very plain when persian gulf or twice to become prime minister i declined i declined because i thought it would be window dressing i declined because he wanted me to use my popularity at that moment to kind of do this p.r. stunt for him but i thought that it wou