second, the lebedevs, and particularly evgeny, were very proud of the work they raised, the money they raised for the gorbachev cancer foundation. they had gorbachev in the evening standard newsroom. putin despises gorbachev. he sees gorbachev as the man who helped collapse the soviet union, ending russia as a great power. so, i mean, it s a strange thing to have that kind of close relationship with gorbachev. now third, i would draw a distinction between the father and the son. the son always struck me as a bit of a hedonist. i mean, you know. well, i didn t go by the way, katie, ijust wanted to. neither did i, i d like to say. i was not at pisa airport, seeing a very dishevelled foreign secretary who, for some reason, didn t want his security detail around. borisjohnson. but ijust think we need to be