when i think about it, you still get goose bumps, because i was present when the disk went into the computer. the mistake that btk made was, he made a copy of that test file, and once he copied it, it locked in identifiers in the computer gibberish. i vividly recall going through, and then you see dennis, and then you see christ lutheran church. otis: the message on the disk had been created at the christ lutheran church in park city. we used google and googled the church. it shows the church, where it s at in park city, and then it shows the officers of the church, and dennis rader was listed as the congregational president. sure enough, right there president of the congregation, dennis rader.