i understand the fear they may have of donald trump. i accept all of that. but what i don t understand right now is denying what is in this document and the testimony under oath by other republicans in six different states, local politicians who stood up and testified telling their story. i don t understand why these lawmakers, why the speaker of the house, and why tv hosts who are constantly feeding donald trump s ego, why they can t give these people a chance to be heard, why they can t read this document and take a look at what, okay, might have happened, did happen to our democracy. if you were there on january 6th and if you saw what happened they know what happened, mika. they know what happened. but my point is you re
republicans whose very professional lives depended on donald trump winning. that was the power and the effectiveness of the january 6th select committee, and it s important that you just laid that out, because the argument already, we re hearing from trump defenders and even his own attorneys on tv, he was operating in good faith, which is to say he actually thought the election had been stolen from him. well, no, if you go through these 45 pages as you just did in a very important way because it shows who exactly and how many people were telling him, sir, you lost the election. here is a claim you put up. here is why it s nonsense. another claim and state by state, go to michigan go to pennsylvania, go to wisconsin, go to arizona, and, yes, go to georgia. we re waiting to hear more from the d.a. in fulton county in a matter of a couple weeks here about that case, he knew. so the argument this was all in good faith is nonsense as laid
perhaps, the other indictments that the president is facing. all completely unprecedented. and david french, your new piece is entitled this is the trial america needs. you write in part, quote, millions of americans believe today that joe biden stole the presidency. they believe a series of demonstrable, provable lies, and their beliefs in those lies is shaking their faith in our republic, and, by extension, risking the very existence of our democracy. there is no sure way to shake their convictions, especially if they are convinced that trump is the innocent victim of a dark and maligned deep state, but the judicial system can expose his claims to exacting scrutiny. and that scrutiny has the potential to change those minds that are open to the truth. smith has brought a difficult case, but it s a necessary case.
certainly you did and i did as well underestimated the lengths to win he would continue to go trying to overthrow this election. and after reading this, i also will admit i underestimated many republican officeholders dedication to their oath over donald trump. you read through this time and time again whether it was whether it was acting attorney generals inside the white house, whether it was speakers of the house, there would be a collective panic when you would see michigan speaker of the house and head of the senate go donald trump, when donald trump would put out a statement lying about mike pence saying mike pence agrees with me. time and time again pence, time and time again, pushed back on the lies. it really was striking.
ex-president, presumably, assuming he s found guilty of this, returning to the scene of his crime. i mean, it s such an american tale here. he s being brought to washington in the vicinity of the capitol where this insurrection took place near the white house where he planned this plot against america to steal our democracy and a jury of 12 ordinary, and no american citizen is ordinary, but 12 american citizens, which is the highest title we have in this country, not president, not chief justice. they will meet to decide his fate. if the founders came back from 1787 and they saw this happening, what better tableau that demonstrates the fact that no human being in this country should be above the law. right. no man is above the law. general psaki, donald trump faces 78 counts across three