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i don t think that argument is going to hold a lot of water. so, he is going to plead not guilty, alan weisselberg. i take it that if this ever goes to trial, it is, it s already a case that failed to achieve perhaps what the d.a. achieved. this is intended to be a building block. explain. correct. well, he can plead not guilty, and he is pleading not guilty, but that does not mean that latesha james does not have a case, and they have materials to rely on, and the fact that he is not assisting them at this point in the prosecution is not surprising, but it is not a deal-breaker for them in any shape or form, because they do have the documents that are

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Transcripts for MSNBC MTP Daily 20240604 17:52:00

explaining why is this criminal and not civil, and could vit easily been the other waysh and then grown into criminal or vice versa? well, tax evasion is a crime, and as you know, chuck, and so this is very typical to have a criminal cases being brought, and now they are mostly brought by federal prosecutors, and state prosecutors are also going to bring many of these cases, and so the fact that it is criminal is not really a surprise here. and we have seen a lot of commentary from the trump organization lawyers saying that, you know, these numbers are small, and these amounts are tiny and this case should have never been brought, and it is really not the case that these kinds of cases are common, and they are often going to involve relatively small amounts of money, and certainly amounts of money that the trump organization would characterize as small. so, yes, a criminal case is

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Transcripts for MSNBC MTP Daily 20240604 17:56:00

for looting the company. so these cases can start small, and i am not going to say that is going to happen here, but when you gate case in the beginnings of it, and really, it is not the end. we are only at the beginning here. how long did tyco and i want to remind people that was years and not months. it was two years after the indictment of dennis koslowski that he finally was found guilty. and you know, that is a long time. that is a very long time. yep. it was a small case that got very big. gretchen morganson, it is great to get your reporting and expertise on that. we will be back tomorrow with more meet the press daily and more coverage continues

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Transcripts for MSNBC MTP Daily 20240604 17:12:00

d.a. failed? oh, that s really hard to tell at this point, chuck, of course, we still have to see the paperwork and what the charges are against both weisselberg and the trump organization but the way i see this today is that this is essentially the first layer of building blocks where they re trying to build a tower and i think if they had had enough, i think if the d.a. office had felt comfortable they had enough to bring additional charges or additional defendants into the case they would have done it today. but what they re doing is very cautious and i think it s smart. it would not surprise me and i think we need to look at the paperwork to establish this but it would not surprise me whether if the case was that at this moment in time they simply felt they were running out of time under the statute of limitations with respect to both weisselberg and the trump organization and by that i mean there s a five-year statute of limitations

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