and ken, i want to ask you, what kinds of things the two grand juries that are now i guess being used for mueller s investigation, what kinds of things they could get? i get asked all the time, if they would be the ones that could finally see donald trump s tax returns. is that the kind of thing that one of these grand juries would be able to subpoena? you know, i m not a lawyer and this is a little outside my lane but i believe that when its comes to content, like tax returns, you need a court order. a judge s order as opposed to the grand jury subpoena. but i ll take that question, nicolle, and get back to you on that. you know what, you don t have to. actually, you re going to stay with me. you re stuck with me. i m holding hostage. this is an august friday you re stuck with me for the duration. let me bring in a couple of lawyers that are going to help us wade through this. i want to introduce rog day from the national security council agency and former assistant attorney gener