Do you and arnie duncan sort of sit down and talk about how you interact and how to change what education means and what continuing education means in the labor front . I would ask the president of conversation. What the president understands, and i think the biggest adjustment we have to do is there are multiple pathways to the prosperity and apprenticeship is one of them. Community college etc. And the workforce innovation and opportunity that is a joint venture between the department of education and the department of labor. But it does is end and that the collaboration between the two agencies. One more quick example weve done a lot of collaboration and redesign in high school for the career Technical Education so the sixyear High School Model that some of you in the audience and twitter may have seen is a remarkable example of how to create pathways to the middle class. At the end of which youve gotten a Frame Associates degree. I went to the academy in chicago and that school is