pretty flexible. there is a lock to sweeten the deal. bret: i have seen a lot of interviews with senator paul and he voted for the skinny repeal but yet he s not voting for this. this skinny repeal was not repealing obamacare either. it gave a pathway toward repeal and it was a move toward, the republicans have been claiming for years they re going to repeal obamacare. replaced isn t part of it. at least there was something to that bill, some movement that could be made in ground on which you would claim to keep going. republicans weren t telling the truth when they said they were going to repeal obamacare so the question becomes what s the best way to have government handling these things. for a lot of conservatives, block grants are the way to go. bret: the namesake of the law, the former president. when i see people trying to undo the hard-won progress for the 50th or 60th time, it is aggravating. it frustrates.
but you never know, they could pull it off. julie: john roberts, thank you so much. jon: let s talk a little bit more about that bill and a last-ditch effort by senate republicans to try to get rid of obamacare. kentucky senator rand paul saying it s not the repeal the republican promised americans. i ve seen obamacare up close and personal and i hate every bit of it. i promised the voters for repeal, but this bill actually keeps the obamacare spending and redistributes it among the states. it s a $1.2 trillion federal grant program and that s not repeal. i didn t promise people to keep that trillion dollars putting program and reshuffle the money among the states. this is not repeal, it s barely obamacare lite. it keeps obamacare. it s not wholly promised. jon: meanwhile, bill cassidy, one of the lemmings behind s proposal, heading back at paul this morning. watch. we ve spoken, but he has to
with obamacare. some of the problems that people talk about have nothing to do with obamacare. there is a bipartisan process underway to try to fix obamacare. that s the direction that we should go. republicans are making a huge mistake. this is anything but conservative. there is no list involved here. we don t know how this is going to work out, we don t have a cbo score. if you look at the financial press of this, their raising their arms up in the air and saying this incredibly risky. this can block the entire medical health care system. i think republicans are making huge mistakes. keeping obamacare is something that conservative political parties would do. we re heading at least in a better direction then what we ve seen. jon: you continue to disagree and we have to leave it there. thank you gentlemen.
throughout the smaller municipalities nearby. jon: they don t have a lot of time to get those folks rescued prethe first when he flowers are critical. adam housley, thank you. julie: another potentially catastrophic disaster unfolding and frederico were hurricane maria is slamming the nation. more on the damage and where the hurricane is heading next. plus senator rand paul coming out strongly against the g.o.p. s last ditch effort to get rid of obamacare. how the president is reacting and what other republican lawmakers are also saying. what i would say to senator paul is everybody on the left is accusing me and senator cassidy of killing people, they know this is the end of single-payer health care, and they re worried to death that their dream of civil pair health care ends when graham/cassidy becomes law. go ahead, spoil yourself. the es and es hybrid.
focus of the criticism today. let s bring in the panel. stephen hayes, editor-in-chief of the weekly standard. mollie hemingway, senior editor at the federalist and charles lane, opening writer for the washington post. let s talk about the substance. what this bill does and what he doesn t do. this bill does not repeal and replace obamacare. it keeps most obamacare taxes and spending but block grants to states after 2020. the main selling point is flexibility. lindsey graham making the argument that states are going to be able to do they want, they can experiment in the manner they want. if blue states want to move toward single-payer, they can do that with their obamacare dollars. if red states want to move to more market-based reforms, they can do that. bret: the ultimate federalism. the strongest argument in favor of the bill. leave it to nancy pelosi when there are plenty of criticisms democrats could offer to mischaracterize why republicans are doing this when and how