which have taken a significant toll on russian forces. it concludes beyond kyiv, the cities of kharkiv, chernihiv, sumy and mariupol remain encircled and continue to suffer heavy russian shelling. let s just share with you some of the footage filmed by the reuters news agency in kyiv, shortly after dawn on saturday. you can hear what appears to be gunshots and firing in the distance. it s not clear who is shooting, nor who they may be firing at but it s perhaps the first time gunshots have been so audible in the centre of kyiv since the russian invasion began. we have a constantly updating live page on the events in ukraine on our website. the chancellor of germany and the president of france are currently on a call with vladimir putin.
of their observation posts near the border wall. but incredibly rare to see direct gunfire from a machine gun going into the ution us like that. this was a second volley. i didn t my phone out in time for the first valley. the national guard soldiers said armed cartel members with ak-47s have taunted them and racked the slides on their guns and yelled to them in spanish oh, we should just shoot you soldiers. tensions along the rio grande along the border going up. that cartel activity in the city behind us is still there. we ll send it back to you. bill: wow. bill, that looked like tracer fire and if the video is correct from left to right it would be from south to north as you described from the mexican side. what would they be firing at? we don t know. in past days the soldiers have told us there have been a ton
solely on the vehicle itself, it isn t going to take in the larger picture. and that s why it s very important if you re going to do these kinds of shots accurately to have intelligence on the ground to confirm the target that you re after. unfortunately, that didn t happen here, and they paid the price. i hope they learned the lessons of what it means to fire on these targets and to be damn sure you know what you re firing at. right. and, ultimately, who s to blame here? does there need to be some kind of measure of accountability, firings, resignations? you ve led agencies in these kinds of situations. what typically happens after something like this? well, normally you would have an investigation, and you should have an investigation here because of the innocent lives that were lost.
an investigation that will determine exactly what kind of information they had. an investigation that will determine whether or not they were warned that they might have the wrong targets that they re firing at, an investigation that would determine who gave the final order to fire. there is somebody somewhere that has the ultimate responsibility to say fire. and we have to ask that individual why the order was given in light of the facts that are coming out. and should this spur some changes to how the u.s. conducts drone strikes, this issue of over-the-horizon capabilities? well, i think it s important to always learn the lessons from these kinds of mistakes that are made because, look, i think a
vital part of counterterrorism operations is the ability to have good intelligence, obviously, on the targets, to be able to deliver whether you re going to bring special forces in by helicopter to rappel down and go after the target or whether you re going to use a drone to take a shot. you ve got to be able to have very accurate intelligence on the targets you re firing at. i hope they ll take the time to look at the steps that are necessary here. cia generally relied a great deal more on intelligence on the ground than the military does. and i think the military, if it s going to use drone capability, i think it s going to have to improve the quality of their intelligence as to the targets they re firing. and i just spoke to secretary mayorkas a few moments ago about