and one of the things we see when we see this evidence, whether it s text messages shared by the commit or now these encrypted messages that are detailed in this indictment is that a lot of what these people have said publicly simply turns out to be contradicted by what you see including mr. roemptds i want you to listen. he was saying just other day in an interview, we were there, you know, he has said several times publicly he s sorry some of those people that went into the billing that he didn t want that. we were just there to prempt listen. if we were trying to overthrow the government we would have brought guns. anybody who was actually taking over congress would have brought firearms so that wasn t the intent. i don t think anybody went there with the intent of actually trying to kill anyone or take over the building. that s the message constantly in the trump media eco-chamber, if you will, but kate lynn, the indictment with the enkriptd text messages tell us something ve
specifically targeted at stopping congress from doing something. that s actually a very high burden legally, and the justice department, the worst thing that could have happened here is if they rushed charges out and had them get thrown away by a judge which easily could have happened so the right decision was to take their time and build a very strong case. and so ryan, this is one. very important tracks of a two-track investigation, full. the court cases in the federal courts but also the committee that you follow so closely up on capitol hill which has been track the same players, if you will, and also trying to find out the justice department says seditious conspiracy among the oath keepers. we ll see if more comes from that. one of the things the committee is trying to find out were the oath keepers, who were they in touch with inside the trump white house, other organizers of january 6th. how is that building of the case going? so important to point out that this is running a
department, and that change is being made because now they are able to say with this grand jury indictment that they believe there was a plot to overthroat presidency, not just to stop congress. elliott, caitlin calls it a lot more oomph from the justice department. let s put that into legal terms. you ve been arguing for some time be parish, that to build the tougher cases that many people are demanding it takes time and it takes evidence because the legal threshold to prove seditious conspiracy is a lot higher. explains. right. look, number one, this pours a lot of water on the idea that the justice department isn t going after planners or organizers and is merely getting people fortress passing. this is very, very serious. now, in order to convict someone of seditious conspiracy you have to prove or multiple people conspired by force to prevent, hinder or delay the execution of a lie. that s quite hard. number one, you have to have the communications between those two or three o