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Transcripts for BBCNEWS Unspun World with John Simpson 20240604 10:41:00

they fared particularly badly as well. at the same time, donald trump, now he s making more and more extreme statements that fewer and fewer people are taking seriously, to be honest. that doesn t mean he won t get the presidential nomination. it doesn t even necessarily mean he couldn t win the presidency again. but it does mean he s being edged out of the political mainstream in america. and that is to the relief of many people who found him to be a particularly divisive person. and all that stuff that we were reading in the summer about the possibility of a new civil war and everything. nobody s talking about that sort of thing now, are they? remember, we re not that far away from the january 6th riots in 2021. it s awakened people, i think, to the very real threat that was there, a genuine danger to american democracy, but also in many cases, sober people up a bit. you ve still got people who are angry, people who feel dispossessed, people who feel underrepresented in this country.

Transcripts for BBCNEWS Unspun World with John Simpson 20240604 13:42:00

democracy, but also in many cases, sobered people up a bit. you ve still got people who are angry, people who feel dispossessed, people who feel underrepresented in this country. and that can be a very, very dangerous recipe. but for now, the heat seems to have been taken out of it enough that we will talk about heavily divided politics rather than, as you say, the possibility of actual, genuinely violent civil war. i m almost the same age asjoe biden, so i feel i m kind of entitled to ask this question. isn t he past it? he does look elderly in the way he talks and the way he walks and the way he presents himself. and that can be used against him by people who say he s simply not up to it, or he just doesn t have the vitality to take the country on to the next step. it s very hard for people in the democratic party to challenge a sitting president. if he ends up standing against donald trump, well, he s only about four years younger thanjoe biden. so the age issue is

Transcripts for BBCNEWS Unspun World with John Simpson 20240604 21:42:00

mainstream in america. and that is to the relief of many people who found him to be a particularly divisive person. and all that stuff that we were reading in the summer about the possibility of a new civil war and everything. nobody s talking about that sort of thing now, are they? remember, we re not that far away from the january 6th riots in 2021. it s awakened people, i think, to the very real threat that was there, a genuine danger to american democracy, but also in many cases, sober people up a bit. you ve still got people who are angry, people who feel dispossessed, people who feel underrepresented in this country. and that can be a very, very dangerous recipe. but for now, the heat seems to have been taken out of it enough that we will talk about heavily divided politics rather than, as you say, the possibility of actual, genuinely violent civil war. i m almost the same age asjoe biden, so i feel i m kind of entitled to ask this question. isn t he past it?

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