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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 20240604 06:13:00

willis s special grand jury. how much overlap is there in these investigations. we are already seeing significant overlap. there is a reason why. georgia was one of the center pieces, one of the pillars of donald trump s attempts to overturn the election results and spread conspiracy theories and unfounded lies. in georgia, governor kemp as you mentioned is one of the star witnesses, the key witness for fani willis investigation. in jack smith, federal prosecutors believed to be focused on trump s demand to brian kemp that he call a special legislative session to overturn the results of the election here in georgia. that is something the governor refused to do repeatedly, saying it would lead to endless litigation and put republican lawmakers at risk for security concerns. then trump tried to make kemp pay for that. back in a failed effort to oust him from office last year. continues to be at the center of not just the federal case. but the case here in georgia we could see the resul

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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 20240604 03:02:00

donald trump and his supporters. people went out of their way to tell me that that number was rising rapidly as the almost $2 million to protect the department of justice, to make sure they are not harmed during this investigation. that is something. meanwhile, former nypd commissioner bernard kerik, you remember him, he worked with rudy giuliani to uncover what was alleged voter fraud, he has now turned over thousands of pages of documents to jack smith s office. and tonight former trump justice department official richard donahue told nbc s spoken to the special counsel s office. last year, he told the january 6th committee about trump s efforts to push doj officials into helping him overturn the results of the election. smith s prosecutors have also been in touch with georgia s republican governor brian kemp. you recall shortly after the election trump called the governor and tried to pressure him to overturn biden s victory in that state. there s also news about trump s

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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 20240604 03:01:00

watching for what special counsel jack smith does next in the investigation into former president donald trump s efforts to overturn the 2020 election. about a week ago, trump confirmed he was a target in smith s election interference probe. now, while we wait for news on a possible third trump indictment, we are getting a clearer picture of the scope of the investigations. the new york times now reporting that the justice department has been pouring resources into the trump investigations and the special counsel is now on track to spend a total of $25 million a year. the times adds, that includes the cost of protecting the staff that are carrying out the investigations. what was most fascinating and kind of most disturbing is that 1.9 million of that money went to paying in the u.s. marshals to protect jack smith, his family, and prosecutors working on the case, many of whom had been named name checked on social media by

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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 20240604 03:08:00

i talked price, to save democracy, to promote sort of free and fair elections. and importantly, to deter the next aspiring dictator if we happen upon one from trying to overthrow the express will of the american voters. i mean, that is priceless. greg, the new york times article also mentions fani willis s investigation. give us an update there because that is also taking a huge amount of time and attention for that office? it is. and we still expect a decision from fani willis about whether or not they will prosecute donald trump and some of his allies within the next few weeks. you are right, it s taking an enormous number of resources here in fulton county, in georgia as well. she s come under some criticism from that republican cheer about those resources. look, it s been two year investigation, only about ten of the officers, or staffers, are full-time devoted to this investigation. we are talking prosecutors,

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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 20240604 03:13:00

in the future in exchange for providing truthful testimony against donald trump and others. for that, you get a better for your bargain, either a reduced plea, or perhaps a reduced sentence. when you are sentenced. it feels like mark meadows is most likely a cooperating witness. but we don t know that for a fact. craig, let s go back to georgia. the special counsel we now know contacted governor kemp. who also gave testimony in fani willis s special grand jury. how much overlap is there in these investigations. we are already seeing significant overlap. there is a reason why. georgia was one of the center pieces, one of the pillars of donald trump s attempts to overturn the election results and spread conspiracy theories and unfounded lies. in georgia, governor kemp as you mentioned is one of the star witnesses, the key witness for fani willis investigation. in jack smith, federal prosecutors believed to be focused on trump s demand to brian kemp that he call a

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